kip270 Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Eagler, You don't have to explain yourself and what your birds can or cannot do in other people's eye's ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy's do not dismiss something that you have no knowledge about. Eagles do take Deer, and have been doing so before the gun or Bow was invented I thank you It's the same as people flying their spars at magpie's or crows, male harris at hare/pheasent, birds of prey are DEADLY they have be You believe what you want. I'll believe what I see and know. I spend a lot of time stalking and shooting Munties and Roe and I reckon I know their ways as well as anyone. I'm not saying eagles can't, I am saying they rarely do in the UK and any owner worth his salt wouldn't be flying them through the sort of cover that munties favour and risking injury. Nildes, First of all it is not what i believe it is what i know i have over 25 years experience with birds of prey and what they can do in pursuit of quarry is breathtaking, but don't forget THESE ARE TRAINED BIRDS NOT WILD BIRDS There is no difference to Eagles taking munties to goshawk or harris hawks taking rabbits in the same sort of cover. The amount of bramble a hawk will dive into to catch it's quarry is unlimited, if they think the cover is too thick they will not go in. If you have never seen it then please do not cast asumptions, you would not like it if someone said something about your shooting who didn't know a thing about it, you would defend yourself as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nildes Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Eagler, You don't have to explain yourself and what your birds can or cannot do in other people's eye's ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy's do not dismiss something that you have no knowledge about. Eagles do take Deer, and have been doing so before the gun or Bow was invented I thank you It's the same as people flying their spars at magpie's or crows, male harris at hare/pheasent, birds of prey are DEADLY they have be You believe what you want. I'll believe what I see and know. I spend a lot of time stalking and shooting Munties and Roe and I reckon I know their ways as well as anyone. I'm not saying eagles can't, I am saying they rarely do in the UK and any owner worth his salt wouldn't be flying them through the sort of cover that munties favour and risking injury. Nildes, First of all it is not what i believe it is what i know i have over 25 years experience with birds of prey and what they can do in pursuit of quarry is breathtaking, but don't forget THESE ARE TRAINED BIRDS NOT WILD BIRDS There is no difference to Eagles taking munties to goshawk or harris hawks taking rabbits in the same sort of cover. The amount of bramble a hawk will dive into to catch it's quarry is unlimited, if they think the cover is too thick they will not go in. If you have never seen it then please do not cast asumptions, you would not like it if someone said something about your shooting who didn't know a thing about it, you would defend yourself as well. Listen Kip, If a newbie turns up on this site giving it large a bit and I chose to be sceptical, whats wrong with that? If he says that his goldies are hunting roe and munties in the area he claims, let him post the pictures up like everybody asks. I've seen film of goldies trying to spook reds into jumping off crags so that they can feast off the carrion but I haven't ever come across anyone flying a goldie into the sort of cover munties prefer. I think its risking injury and if I had a goldie, I'd be very carefull what and where I flew it at. He's come back and said he's flown one against a gut shot muntie which is a bit different. You're wading in saying its possible to use a bop against all sorts and I don't disagree but don't just take his part cos he claims to be a falconer. Is he the real deal is is he just somebody having a wind-up? Its possible to shoot a deer at well over a mile but I wouldn't do it or consider it sensible. There's a difference between what is possible and what is practical and sensible. If someone wants to stretch our credibility, let them back it up with some evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Eagler, You don't have to explain yourself and what your birds can or cannot do in other people's eye's ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy's do not dismiss something that you have no knowledge about. Eagles do take Deer, and have been doing so before the gun or Bow was invented I thank you It's the same as people flying their spars at magpie's or crows, male harris at hare/pheasent, birds of prey are DEADLY they have be You believe what you want. I'll believe what I see and know. I spend a lot of time stalking and shooting Munties and Roe and I reckon I know their ways as well as anyone. I'm not saying eagles can't, I am saying they rarely do in the UK and any owner worth his salt wouldn't be flying them through the sort of cover that munties favour and risking injury. Nildes, First of all it is not what i believe it is what i know i have over 25 years experience with birds of prey and what they can do in pursuit of quarry is breathtaking, but don't forget THESE ARE TRAINED BIRDS NOT WILD BIRDS There is no difference to Eagles taking munties to goshawk or harris hawks taking rabbits in the same sort of cover. The amount of bramble a hawk will dive into to catch it's quarry is unlimited, if they think the cover is too thick they will not go in. If you have never seen it then please do not cast asumptions, you would not like it if someone said something about your shooting who didn't know a thing about it, you would defend yourself as well. Listen Kip, If a newbie turns up on this site giving it large a bit and I chose to be sceptical, whats wrong with that? If he says that his goldies are hunting roe and munties in the area he claims, let him post the pictures up like everybody asks. I've seen film of goldies trying to spook reds into jumping off crags so that they can feast off the carrion but I haven't ever come across anyone flying a goldie into the sort of cover munties prefer. I think its risking injury and if I had a goldie, I'd be very carefull what and where I flew it at. He's come back and said he's flown one against a gut shot muntie which is a bit different. You're wading in saying its possible to use a bop against all sorts and I don't disagree but don't just take his part cos he claims to be a falconer. Is he the real deal is is he just somebody having a wind-up? Its possible to shoot a deer at well over a mile but I wouldn't do it or consider it sensible. There's a difference between what is possible and what is practical and sensible. If someone wants to stretch our credibility, let them back it up with some evidence. Sorry if i came across all gunho Nildes, but having flown hawks i know where he is coming from as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 welcome to the two new guys , i hope we can see a few pics of the goldie in action , all birds of prey are fine creatures and a joy to watch , my knowledge of them is very limited indeed but i find them awesome all the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Welcome to PW, can't wait for the pics. Where in Eastern England are you? SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidsalmon Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 amazing vid: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagler Posted December 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 http://www.oook.cz/events/opocno06/8598.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il cacciatore Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 That is one bad *** bird. No messing with one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagler Posted December 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 http://www.oook.cz/events/opocno06/8598.html http://www.oook.cz/events/opocno06/8602.html have a look; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 that is great two read. thanks,and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Thanks for sharing that with us. AWSOME. kIPPER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestbry Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 i got a home made video here of eagles taking deer/fox/hare. My mate go out to cech every year watching the eagles and boar shooting , and he's the chairman of the well know Welsh Hawking Club. Also a few yrs ago a local farmer had a female golden eagle i sen it take foxes NO PROBLEM/ and it killed 6 dogs too IT is a FACT that eagles do kill large prey Bry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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