fragmenting bullets for 22 hornet

[ThePestControllers]

Hello Guys

what alternatives are there to the v-mav type bullets for the 22 hornet by that i mean fragmenting type bullets that have a very good chance of NOT ricocheting.

 

Cheers

Daz

[fieldwanderer]

Aren't sierra blitzking the same idea?

[nicholiath]

Sierra varminters have thin bullet jacket for hornet velocities also.

[wymberley]

There are 5 .224 40/45gn bullets listed by Sierra. Two, the 45gn SPT stock #1310 and the 40gn Blitzking stock #1440 are respectively 0.630 and 0.677" in length so stability may well be problematic. This just leaves the two dumpy Hornets, 40 and 45gn, stock #1100 and 1210 respectively and the 40gn HP stock #1385 at 0.562 with a 0.155 BC and is probably therefore the best Sierra choice for what you're after.

[Amazed]

There are the Speer TNT series and the nosler 40 grain bt as well.

[ThePestControllers]

i am going to have a look at these other bullet heads now.

 

 

phil what was the maximum bullet head length i could have again please

 

Cheers

Daz

[ThePestControllers]

i have just looked at the sierra 224 hornet bullets and they look like they will do the job as they seem to have been specifically made for the hornet.

 

 

Karl

the length of the speer bullets i think is too long not sure though

[ThePestControllers]

Just seen NOSLER make a very similar bullet to the v-max but i believe its to long.

 

this might be a stupid question but if the max length for argument sake of the bullet is 20mm

if one bullet is longer but has a longer tapered nose and is not as stubby (round Nosed) as the correct size (20mm) say it is 30mm does it matter.

does it have anything to do with the amount of the bullet that is actually touching the barrel or does the overall length matter for the rifling to stabilise it.

 

Daz

[Amazed]

Am at works so will be quick have a look at this pal.

 

http://www.nosler.com/22-caliber

[Andy H]

What about 34 grain dogtown hp's or varmint grenades.

[njc110381]

You generally need a Hornet specific bullet to allow the round to be fed with the magazine. A standard .224 bullet will not fit when seated correctly, but of course this only matters if you are using a mag. If not it can be as long as you like, as the more pointy design will still chamber just fine.

 

Bullets I found to be very explosive were the 35gr V-Max and 33gr Speer TNT. The Sierra bullets that I used - the 45gr Hornet, did not fragment at all. In fact I fired one into a bucket of water to see what happened and it mushroomed perfectly. Although the core did separate from it's jacket it was relatively intact.

[ThePestControllers]

it says 14" twist on the data sheet.

those bullets look remarkably like the v max

but whats more amazing it says only 8-10 grains of lil,gun powder given that it a 35 grain bullet the same as the v-max and the v-max says 12-13 grains theres a big difference.

[wymberley]

To totally ignore theory is not a good idea. To bear it in mind while you investigate what happens with your kit in the field is a little different.

 

The ballistic tip type of bullet - the Nosler and V Max - require a higher velocity to perform as advertised and in a 1 in 16 Hornet barrel are pushing the limits. I would be inclined to concentrate on getting a good accurate performance from one of the more conventional Hornet type bullets first so you're up and running before spending a lot of time playing about with something which ultimately isn't going to work.

[ThePestControllers]

Morning Phil

do you think the lead tipped bullets and hollow point versions in sierra bullets are probably more accurate

[wymberley]

Morning Phil

do you think the lead tipped bullets and hollow point versions in sierra bullets are probably more accurate

Daz,

I think the bottom line is, as ever, what suits your barrel best and the only possible but expensive way to find out is to try them. It's a shame that we can't post samples of expanding ammo to each other; we'd all save a fortune!

If the Hornady 45gn Hornet proves difficult to get (it's on the Hornady suspended list, and you can get COL/mag fit problems but this I understand can be sorted with a CZ), then I've found that in addition to that one, the 40Sierra HP (hollow point) Stock #1385 and the Speer Varmint 45 SP Stock #1023 are also very good. If you want to pin me down, it's the Speer.

[ThePestControllers]

Phil

i like the look of the 2 hornet rounds from speer and from what people say they fragment pretty well.

are they fairly easy to get hold of

[wymberley]

Phil

i like the look of the 2 hornet rounds from speer and from what people say they fragment pretty well.

are they fairly easy to get hold of

You shouldn't have too much trouble finding some. If fox is on the menu for whatever you load, then I would suggest the 45gn #1023. You should be able to lob this at 2850+. I've packed in the 'fiddling' now that I've sold the Weihrauch and picked up an HMR for the longer range rabbits so I'm settling for the Ruger and the 50gn SPSXs purely for fox.

[kent]

Hello Guys

what alternatives are there to the v-mav type bullets for the 22 hornet by that i mean fragmenting type bullets that have a very good chance of NOT ricocheting.

 

Cheers

Daz

Nothing has "a very good chance" some are better than others but if i have a specific issue or fear in my mind I just use an air rifle or shotgun depending on the task at hand. Far better to err on the side of caution than regret it after the fact