conor Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 hello all, thinking of getting myself one of these as from what ive read they are an all rounder, like to know what ye fellas think of them thanks conor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villager Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Well iv done plenty of research on them and in the end decided to get one brought him home last Sunday. I can’t comment on his performance in the field as yet (He’s only 11 weeks old) but I have to say he really will do anything to please you. He’s the most docile pup iv ever had he seams to know when he’s going to far. I would say that they suffer a bit with cold by apart from that I’m chuffed with mine, they do seam very responsive to the tone of your voice though so raising it too much is really a bad idea as I found out myself, However this is only one pup and with all dogs this might differ from dog to dog. There not the easiest to train by all accounts but iv had no problems with mine so far. Try to see a few working before you decide, but if you’re planning on doing a lot of different types of shooting they excel. It took me a while to decide to go for a GSP and now I have Im really pleased with him as long you’ve got the time and your not to hard with your voice I don’t think you will go far wrong mate. Villager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Conor, GSPs are indeed a good all rounder.....depending on what type of shooting you want to do, what type of ground you cover, and how much time you have to spare...... I've had GSPs for 20 years, and they suit my type of rough shooting very well, but are not much good when it comes to rough cover/brambles/small places etc etc. They can certainly scent the birds, but just can't get to flush them. (Which is why I just bought a Sprocker, as my shooting terrain is changing). In my experience GSPs are fairly high strung, and certainly don't respond well to shouting and bullying, so you need to be aware of that. Also, as a breed, they are designed to run all day, and given half a chance they will certaibly do that.....BUT.....they do need lots and lots of excercise or they can become bored and can quickly trash the house or kennels. They are certainly not the easiest gundog to train, and you do need a very high degree of patience. Havig said that, if you get it right, they are an absolute pleasure to own and shoot over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conor Posted December 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 thanks lads, it will be mainly open ground i shoot but will be going in the rough stuff the odd time, a friends friend breeds them and they are ment to be from good lines and good workers. will be taking a look at his dogs this week. he also sells them trained but id rather have a go at that myself. are they good with other dogs? as there is about 7 sheep dogs and a lurcher pup at home already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I've never had a problem with any of my GSPs being aggressive towards other dogs. Just make sure the other dogs aren't aggressive towards your pup and risk turning him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestbry Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I'VE had a german whirehaired pointer now for 9 yrs , i do al types of shooting also and she excelss at most of it if theres scent in any cover brambles etc she's in. very biddable and great guard dog as well I'd think about a gwp too. also Terceil got a gwp ask him Bry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 From proper sound lines, there should be no agression problems. Just remember 30 seconds of loosing your cool or yelling at a pointer will cost you 2 weeks of training. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conor Posted December 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 pestbry, have not seen the wirehaired type just looked them up now they are a fine dog, are the gsp and gwp the same with different hair or are there other differences? yes new to the flock i will keep my cool, much the same as when training a sheep dog it pays not to loose it and start yelling! can be quite hard sometimes tho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russuk Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Different breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I used to shoot Pigeons with a guy that had a GSP, it was a superb dog, very good at flushing and retrieving, the dog was so keen it would sometimes run straight through the nets to retrive a bird, rather than going around the sides, it looked very comical to see cammo nets on the move across the field...!! The dog also got wise to my friend loading his shooting gear into the 4 x 4 the night before shooting, and soon realised that he'd be out the next day. He would stay awake all night whining, he was so excited about going shooting, so much so my friend had to abandon pre-loading the 4 x 4, so they all got a good nights sleep. Unfortunately the dog was never properly trained as a gundog, being more of a family pet, but it had a superb nature and if I was considering acquiring a good all round gundog, I would seriously consider a GSP. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conor Posted December 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 can imagine him running off nets in tow! not heard anything bad about them just a bit hard to train but guess that would make things even more rewarding, nothing like seeing a well trained gun dog do the business its almost better than the shooting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 See, now I can't visit your house anymore Conor, I just know your dad will have a pup or three hidden in my car to take away home :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 pestbry, have not seen the wirehaired type just looked them up now they are a fine dog, are the gsp and gwp the same with different hair or are there other differences? yes new to the flock i will keep my cool, much the same as when training a sheep dog it pays not to loose it and start yelling! can be quite hard sometimes tho! Conor, Deeksofdoom has just bought a GWP he is in Waterford I believe. Pure bred but no papers. Only paid a 100 euro's for it. My GWP is one of the best dogs I have owned. I use him for everything from picking up on a pheasant shoot to Pigeon shooting, Woodcock shooting and even ferreting now as he had his first mornings ferreting today. I cannot praise the HPR breeds enough if you need a dog for a lot of tasks then these are the dogs. GWP's were originally bred from GSP's out crossed to hounds to get the coat that they required. Also the Munsterlander comes from the same lines. Tiercel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conor Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 john just let them out back the road they will come home again!! :unsure: tiercel, thanks for the info. im going to try get a look at both types, havent seen the wirehaired in the flesh just the gsp. which of them is the better dog? or is it a case of how long is a piece of string! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 john just let them out back the road they will cime home again!! :unsure: tiercel, thanks for the info. im going to try get a look at both types, havent seen the wirehaired in the flesh just the gsp. which of them is the better dog? or is it a case of how long is a piece of string! How long is a piece of string Conor. To my mind it all depends what you want the dog to do. I went for the GWP as I had worked with his mother seen the father working, sort of knew I was on to a head start there. Plus the coat was what I was looking for, should I start wildfowling again. To be honest when I first thought about HPR my first thought went to Wire Haired Vizzla's but @ £600 a pup that thought did not last long. I do not believe that I compromised in any way by getting a GWP as all the HPR dogs have the same potential really. Just wish I had found out about them 30 years ago. Tiercel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestbry Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 john just let them out back the road they will come home again!! :unsure: tiercel, thanks for the info. im going to try get a look at both types, havent seen the wirehaired in the flesh just the gsp. which of them is the better dog? or is it a case of how long is a piece of string! conor short hairs Don't like the brambles and any thick cover, they are more of a open dround type dog (moors etc) dpends on what type of work you want the pointer to do Most gsp are used in falconry or for the grouse moors,saying that a lot of falconers use the gwp also manily for the rabbiting they flush out of the hedgerows or brambles . With gwp theres certain strains are great with kids and make great guard dogs Bry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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