neil3728 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) Most of our work in Yorkshire is transporting nurses and doctors around in the snow, as the wolds can become unacessable in bad weather. We did lots of work in Hull during the very bad floods a few years ago. Like other groups there area number fully tricked out 4x4's in the group and there are those standard vehicles aswell. Equally here salop sniper, we would have jumped at someone of your experiance in our group. Edited August 16, 2013 by neil3728 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimblowscash Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I can't remember exactly what they required as it was a few years back now but at the time it seemed daft to expect people who were offering their time and money for free to spend out on unnesacery items , I think one was a very expensive hi vis vest with the groups logo on the back and a cb radio ,the plain one I have was apparently just not good enough ! I know you cannot be sued by someone if you are giving first aid as you are classed as a rescuer which exempts you from prosecution but not sure how hat would translate across to pulling drivers of German cars out of ditches with a tow rope :-) We give all our members a printed hi vis vest along with a tee shirt and printed ID card and add them to the national liability insurance, give them three training sessions , police vet them to national police level 1 ( kent police provide this service and a police identification card ) and and put them through the first aid at work course all for the princely joining fee of £25.00 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimblowscash Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) When i have helped pull people off muddy fields with the tractors at country shows we are more than happy to help but the only rule is they attach the rope or chain to their car that way if you rip the front bumper off or damage the motor its their fault.Make sure your chain or rope is " rated " and has the appropriate rating label or certificate, if it snaps and causes injury or damage to there car you are liable regardless of who attached it!Of course in that scenario if you were a 4x4 response member and the equipment was rated you would be covered by the group liability insurance and legal cover! Edited August 16, 2013 by jimblowscash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimblowscash Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Nice landy but it could do with a clean. Is this clean enough for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimblowscash Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) I was going to join yorks lincs response but its not really what I thought it was. Having a seriously modified 4x4 I expected to be driving up a massive hill and helping someone who was inaccessable by air ambulance or dragging a car out of a ditch. Or something like that.. But.. It seems they just feed old people when it snows.. Don't get me wrong, if someone can show me that I'm going to do some serious offroading ill join.. But.. Driving down a snow covered road to feed Dorothy isn't my thing. (I do enough for my own ne mind anyone else! ) I'm pretty sure Yorks Lincs 4x4 response were either involved in search and rescue support or about to be, that may be more your thing! Edited August 16, 2013 by jimblowscash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Is this clean enough for you? Why didnt the pickup just tow you out forwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlsby Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) I'm pretty sure Yorks Lincs 4x4 response were either involved in search and rescue support or about to be, that may be more your thing! depending on where theyre searching and what im searching for? im all for doing lots of offroading edit.. by offroading i mean offroading not softroading! Edited August 17, 2013 by houlsby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlsby Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Why didnt the pickup just tow you out forwards? my thought too! sure that must be a photoshop, l200's never get stuck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 We give all our members a printed hi vis vest along with a tee shirt and printed ID card and add them to the national liability insurance, give them three training sessions , police vet them to national police level 1 ( kent police provide this service and a police identification card ) and and put them through the first aid at work course all for the princely joining fee of £25.00 ... sounds more like a private members club with an admission fee of £25 and a self financed 4wd than a charity organisation , why should I have to pay a private organisation money from my own pocket to go help other people who are in trouble? I do voluntary work for my local peace hospice regularly as do lots of other people and none of us are asked to pay them for the privilege of helping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimblowscash Posted August 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) sounds more like a private members club with an admission fee of £25 and a self financed 4wd than a charity organisation , why should I have to pay a private organisation money from my own pocket to go help other people who are in trouble? I do voluntary work for my local peace hospice regularly as do lots of other people and none of us are asked to pay them for the privilege of helpingYou're not paying for the privilege ,4x4 response are a registered national charity, you're paying for liability insurance, training, PPE in they form of a hi vis and a printed ID card and if there's anything left in the kitty from that it goes towards the running costs of the group ( we use an SMS call out system that costs 7.5p per text ) All the members are vetted and trained to ensure a minimum standard of service and safety for the agencies who use us. God forbid anything should happen during the course of your volunteering activities you're fully coverd as you've been vetted ( to police national level 1 ) your vehicle and documents will be on record with the organisation and you will be coverd by the liability insurance. Apart from the search and rescue work we do a mileage allowance Is given to cover the cost of fuel by the agency using us so at the end of the year you could be in pocket! By using 4x4 response all the organisations who call on us know what there getting, trained, vetted, insured, volunteers who maintain a level of professionalism and can be trusted to move staff, patients, vaunerable, elderly or young people safely from A to B in all weathers, as opposed to some jack the lad muppet in a 4x4 who turns up in the snow ( trust me they do quite regularly ). Ask yourself one question, your volunteering your time and vehicle for the hospice and whilst someone is getting out your vehicle they fall and break there arm... Where do you stand? The first question health and safety will ask is what training do you have? the second question will be what liability insurance do you have? The third question will be what vetting do you have to be dealing with the elderly / venerable? Your vehicle insurance won't cover it, you can bet your life the hospice will wash there hands of you. Unfortunately in this day and age there exists a blame culture and with this comes liability so for the sake of £25 quid and a few evenings of training wouldn't you feel happier knowing your back was covered and your expenses were being met? Edited August 18, 2013 by jimblowscash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil3728 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 This seems to have degraded a bit from the original post, all I would say is that there is a number of 4x4 Response groups attending the LRO show on the 7th and 8th September. If anyone wants any more information at all then feel free to pop along and have a chat with us. We will be able to sit down and discuss exactley what it is that each group does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) I joined the Zombie Outbreak Response Team instead... I get more action... Edited August 19, 2013 by thepasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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