Boston Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Hiya, as some of you may know through my wanted ad, I am hoping on getting a beautiful line of Silvers going, but been given the heads up on Silver, Silver mating and that they are not alowed. Is there any web site where basic genetic are explained. If Silver, silver are not alowed what are my chances on Sable - Silver mating to produce Silvers and then putting a Sable daughter from this mating back to Silver dad? Are Sandy - Sandy mating's the same and can Silvers be placed with Sandy's to produce Silvers? Hope this makes sence and thanks for any help. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Why do you want colour before anything else ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Why do you want colour before anything else ? Personal preference I suppose, colour wise, but this isn't before any thing else, as said in the ad, tempriment wise she has to be sound, but as for working or pet I do not have a preference as both make equally suitable ferrets when well handled. I would like to produce some really nice silvers and possibly get out to some shows with them if and went the shows come closer and would like to work on the Silver colour mainly. :unsure: Just found a good site about Ferret genetic, here is the link if anybody else is interested: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Ferret-Genetics/ The breeding of two silver's lead to 'high incidence of congenital deformities' so best avoided at all cost!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patsmash Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Les White did a artical in the CMW a good few years back on the subject, its always better to out cross to a albino or polecat :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Les White did a artical in the CMW a good few years back on the subject, its always better to out cross to a albino or polecat :unsure: Thank you, that was just what I was looking at on the net, I will also try and find the artical on the net or see if I can possibly get hold of a back issue (could somebody possible tell me what issue this was in, if so, thank you), but there seams to little to no info on ferret genetics to be found at all??? Can you remember in the artical (sorry to be a pest) if it was okay to breed Silver carriers back to Silvers or is there still a chance of the defects? If you can not remember, thanks again for info given. Thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patsmash Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 ive silvers but always out cross them. the Les White article was a few years back now i just remember the bit about not breeding silver to silver or black eyed white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretboy111 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Ive got a few nice silvers, and have seen alot as i go and show with them. Never interbreed them even if its with its grandad or anything, thats when you get problems ie: brain problems, tumours, complete paraylsis etc, (have seen and known many silvers to have alot of problems) Your best bet is to put a silver with an albino, then if you want to breed from them, to another unrelated albino. There isnt any genetic charts etc as one never knows what you are really going to get, unless you know all the ferrets history, James mckay who i met earlier this year has written a book about ferret breeding with a little genetic information. Silvers arent always the best for showing btw! i go to many shows over the year with 100's of ferrets and sandy's etc far outweigh a plain silver, (My 2 rescue sandy jills kits won best kit in show and beat silvers, silver mitts, blacks, black nose silvers, etc. When you get a black nosed, black eyed silver thats when you start getting a bit more recognised or blacks as they are more popular. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patsmash Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 this is for stubby the one on the right is yours mate the other is a sandie hob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 cheers pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FERRETBOY Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Cracking Pics Patsmash thats what its all about seeing the little fellas enjoying themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Posted December 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Thanks for all that guys... and some very nice pictures. I don't mind so much about winning in any shows (used to show rabbits with many BIS and even the shows you don't place are still fun to be in) as they say it is in taking part. I just really like the colour and think the darker silver's are breath taking, though only ever seen one so far. I have two MacKay books and the one just on Breeding Ferrets which, yes does have basic genetics in. But still have to say even with all the years of rabbits I still only understand it properly when writen in a chart containing colour in writen english and parentage in relation to the rest :blink: My albino girl is a red eyes white girl, so Timber can go to her and I will cross my fingers for at least one silver in the litter. So as I get it so far, no silver to silver matings Out crossing to Red eyed Albino's or Poly's (would you say as a rule dark eyed white should never to be used at all?) And never cross back to any related blood such as father, half brothers/sisters out of same father's or mother's. Again, thank you for helping me learn this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patsmash Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 heres a few more :blink: when i put a polecat to my BEW i normally have half a litter of silvers and half polecats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Some lovely looking ferrets there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patsmash Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 :blink: cheers tiercel iam very happy with these silvers they are turning into good workers especially the silver hob he takes no prisoners, the silver jills are from this years litter and have only been out a couple of times but seem to be doing fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretboy111 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Cracking photos, i must save up some money for next year to buy a long net set from norfolk show! Alex :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Posted December 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 They look proud of their catch. Must look in to long netting!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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