Matt_ Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I've been summoned by the game keeper at my shoot to get mr fox that's nailed the young pheasants in their pen... I work nights (oh the joy) so majority of my shooting is evening or first light after work... And tips will be much appreciated as I am new to foxing with a shotgun and whether or not to use a call? Also any cartridge recommendations would be a massive help? Ta Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Put bait out every night in the same place - bearing in mind where you are going to wait in cover, and the normally prevailing wind. Then when Charlie comes for his nightly take-away, good night Vienna. Works every time. Wait for a couple of nights after the bait is regularly going, as Charlie will be less suspicious. If you have no dead bait, then bury a can of dog food up to it's rim. Charlie will then have to be fairly still to lick out the can. With a dead bait a sneaky Charlie can grab and run, which is most annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy bingo Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Put bait out every night in the same place - bearing in mind where you are going to wait in cover, and the normally prevailing wind. Then when Charlie comes for his nightly take-away, good night Vienna. Works every time. Wait for a couple of nights after the bait is regularly going, as Charlie will be less suspicious. If you have no dead bait, then bury a can of dog food up to it's rim. Charlie will then have to be fairly still to lick out the can. With a dead bait a sneaky Charlie can grab and run, which is most annoying. good advice I find a hand full of dog biscuits scattered about can also be use full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal72 Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Put free bait out but on evening/morning shooting peg the bait down so fox cant just puck it up and run should give u a bit more time for a shot Atb r72 That should say pick up ha ha Edited September 6, 2013 by rascal72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Magic cheers for the advice... How far from my proposed shooting spot should I place bait? I'm planning on using express max game 50g BB... Any choke recommendations? Thinking I'm gonna run full choke for sheer knock down. Ta Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal72 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 To decide best distance I would pattern carts at different distances I did this recently with some carts I was given and at 40 yds only 2 pellets hit my target these were also BB's but through half choke so testing can only help Atb r72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Why do you need to bait at all, isn't the fox a regular visitor to this pen, can't you find his route/track? 50g of BB and full choke....good luck. Where is the Pheasant pen when you are letting go this cannon. I rarely use a shotgun on fox, do you have no choice or do the site conditions favour shotgun over rifle? Edit The tip would also be to get a night off! Fox are of course out in daylight, but more often at night, and a good time to find them is commonly just after dusk and just before sunrise Edited September 11, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Unfortunately I don't have an FAC (yet) so rifle is out the question hence I'm asking advice on bringing him in close... I've been up a few morning post work (6am) but no sign as of yet, waiting until the weekend to try and catch him in the depth of night. Cheers dekers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Unfortunately I don't have an FAC (yet) so rifle is out the question hence I'm asking advice on bringing him in close... I've been up a few morning post work (6am) but no sign as of yet, waiting until the weekend to try and catch him in the depth of night. Cheers dekers Matt I think your times could be an issue, my last early one was 05.40 about 10 days ago as he was heading home, I stayed on site until about 09.00 and saw nothing more except pigeons and magpies. Evenings they commonly come out around dusk and can be busy much of the night, but usually quite active early on, then head home in the morning before dawn. That is a common pattern but there will always be variations! If you bait you will have to try and bait to a time, they can be trained. Baiting when you go to work only to find it has all gone when you get back isn't going to achieve anything, this could be tricky if you are working nights! Snares, Drop Boxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitfitter Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 With respect if the keeper has a fox in their pen and they are summoning a novice to cure the problem then perhaps keepering isnt the job for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonker Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) I've been using Gamebore Buffalo special load 42grn 3's in a s/s 1/4 and 1/2 choke. Had 4 in the last week, with bait at about 25 yds and me sitting up a scaffold tower behind a net, none have moved after they dropped. Edited September 11, 2013 by tonker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted September 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 Bitfitter he's a tree surgeon in the day and its only a small shoot he does on the side and I do a fair amount for him (usually fixing his sodding quad) when I can helps keep my yearly fee down and it gets me out when everything is out of season. Think I'm gonna have to do a weekend run or like dekers said get hold of some snares Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitfitter Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Bitfitter he's a tree surgeon in the day and its only a small shoot he does on the side and I do a fair amount for him (usually fixing his sodding quad) when I can helps keep my yearly fee down and it gets me out when everything is out of season. Think I'm gonna have to do a weekend run or like dekers said get hold of some snares Matt Sorry I jumped to the conclusion he was full time, Is the fox killing in the pen or outside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted September 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 In the pen Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) In the pen Matt Fox proofing pens is often an issue, and commonly an ongoing issue, but if the fox has ready access to the pen I can but suggest someone needs to address proofing issues with a little more vigour! Do you know where they are getting in, that could be a good place to start with snares! Edited September 12, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_ Posted September 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 I've took all this advice in and will go on the offensive at the weekend... Full on fox proof it Fort Knox style and set a couple of snares about. In hindsight I think this maybe a better option. Many thanks for the help Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitfitter Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 First thing Id be looking for is a hole in the pen and checking the elec fence I would also be driving the pen with a gun at one end to make sure it isnt still in there once you know its not in there and cant get in then get some snares set lastly get out the lamp but go steady using a shotgun round the pen at dusk or after dark as you could spook them off roost and out of the pen. best of luck Bitfitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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