Who wants to solve this puzzle?? Hehe

[beesley121]

Hi guys,

 

Tool my 8 bore greylag apart 2 years ago, snapped a part trying to get it back together and it's been in bits since!!!

 

Decided its time to put it back together lol

 

Can you help?

[Big Mat]

If no one can help you, ring Elderkins of Spalding, they know alot about greylag 8 bores.

Edited November 3, 2013 by Big Mat

[Paul223]

Sounds like it could be fun, I can't see it being that hard to rebuild

[Gunman]

So exactly what has broken ?

[Paul223]

Main spring if I remember correctly

http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/227096-8-bore-greylag-leaf-spring/

[beesley121]

Haha, paul is correct. I broke it trying to

Get it back in. I'm trying to

Upload pics but it says the pics are too big!!! Always does this to me off my phone

 

Anyway, bit more info. Priced a new spring up, £35. I hunk I've figured out how it goes back but getting that spring in is another matter. There must be a knack to it

[Paul223]

Yes a knack, think I might be right in saying with it upside down to leave the recocking lever out and insert the spring, obviously it won't go under the hammer so use a suitable screw driver to depress it, on doing so you'll find it'll want to slide forward and over the hammer so you must use a suitably bent piece of thin but strong steel to shoe horn the spring under the hammer as it's depressed, does that make sense

Edited November 3, 2013 by Paul223

[beesley121]

Here yer go

[Paul223]

If you get it right there's a lip on the edge of the spring which hooks into a groove on the hammer, if not it'll pop back out so try again

[beesley121]

I'm understanding what your saying but this is exactly how i snapped the other spring. The force to compress the spring enough to seat under the hammer is extremely high. I remember I nearly took my eye out and sliced my hand when I last snapped it!!

[Paul223]

There shouldn't be much more force than the spring would take during recocking

[Gunman]

AyA box lock spring will fit a lot of Spanish guns . But you do need to be careful when refitting . What you need is a hammer or tumbler key that holds the hammer which you then use to compress the hammer onto the spring before inserting a slave or undersize body wire to hold the hammer in position till you drive in the original wire . Needs bit of practice but you end up with a lot less stiches in your fingers . 4 was enough for me .

[Paul223]

A hammer key could make the job easier but it can still be fiddly

I've yet to fail using the shoehorn method

[bostonmick]

Take it to a gunsmith will be cheaper than breaking a few more springs trying without the proper tools and knowledge.then dont fiddle with it anymore.

[deershooter]

Most springs are fitted with a spring compressor (a small tool to compress the spring before fitting ) not a pair of pliers and a screwdriver

 

Deershooter

[Gunman]

Paul you have been lucky , but I bet I have put a lot more A&D's together than you .

 

Deershooter I think you are talking about side lock type springs , what you describe is not possible on a A&D action mainspring .

[Paul223]

Paul you have been lucky , but I bet I have put a lot more A&D's together than you .

 

Deershooter I think you are talking about side lock type springs , what you describe is not possible on a A&D action mainspring .

I'm a knacky fella, even if I do say so myself

I bet you have

[Gunman]

Yes I do . You can remove mainsprings and replace them as you state on most Spanish box locks as you can with Webley 700s but not with vast majority of other British box locks for one reason or another .