bullet1747 Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Carp! When we go in and carry out work, we are then required to ensure it's gas tight, to do that we would generally test the complete installation. If there is a leak we are duty bound to make it safe, if the pipe, meter or fittings don't comply or aren't sound, we are duty bound to ensure it is made safe...if that means waiting on site for an hour or more for the gas transporters engineer to turn up, then we do it etc, etc. When we fit a gas appliance we are duty bound to check it's safe to use, IF anything isn't and an accident results, guess who the HSE will come after first! you would cap the meter of ,cause the client would not pay a fortune for the fix lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 He would struggle it wasn't on site. So he didn't test the gas carcass no? Didn't turn the gas off at the meter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 you would cap the meter of ,cause the client would not pay a fortune for the fix lol That all depends on the situation, a seized ECV (control valve) means that you can't cap anything because you can't turn the gas off. Would I cap a meter with a newborn baby and mum in the house in Winter? Not if it can be helped in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 The cooker in question was off site. (And is covered by a fairly recent safety certificate 8 months or so) but the rest of the system was tested at the meter as normal before and after the checks and work. So there was no appliance for him to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 That all depends on the situation, a seized ECV (control valve) means that you can't cap anything because you can't turn the gas off. Would I cap a meter with a newborn baby and mum in the house in Winter? Not if it can be helped in any way. funny that that happened to me ten years back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) The cooker in question was off site. (And is covered by a fairly recent safety certificate 8 months or so) but the rest of the system was tested at the meter as normal before and after the checks and work. So there was no appliance for him to fit. He may not have any for the cooker,but he's tested the carcass and meter so now has some responsibility as to it's condition. funny that that happened to me ten years back What did? Edited December 24, 2013 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 gas got capped of with a new born in the house , asked him to fix the problem he didn't have time was the answer , had the cap back out before he left the the drive and fixed the leak with in 30 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheatingRabbit Posted December 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Gosh Can of worms well and truly opened here.... Sorry for that. I'll get a new hob and find a registered fitter to change the bayonet fitting. less than £100 is no price to pay for peace of mind, and I'd advise anyone in the same spot to consider that! Cheers all CR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Gosh Can of worms well and truly opened here.... Sorry for that. I'll get a new hob and find a registered fitter to change the bayonet fitting. less than £100 is no price to pay for peace of mind, and I'd advise anyone in the same spot to consider that! Cheers all CR don't worry mate glad you got it sorted merry christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Gosh Can of worms well and truly opened here.... Sorry for that. I'll get a new hob and find a registered fitter to change the bayonet fitting. less than £100 is no price to pay for peace of mind, and I'd advise anyone in the same spot to consider that! Cheers all CR Ha ha just a friendly debate. Happy Christmas pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 gas got capped of with a new born in the house , asked him to fix the problem he didn't have time was the answer , had the cap back out before he left the the drive and fixed the leak with in 30 mins If it was just a case of being pushed for time, the bloke was a berk, and yes that is my professional opinion. Ours is a service industry, you need to give good service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 The new hob will need to be fitted with a ridged connection you cannot re fit it to the flexi!! So £80 is a good price and sounds about right to me! And I'm a gas/heating engineer so not talking from a DIY background The only thing the gas regs say about you doing your own gas work is that " any person working with gas must be a competant person" The rest of the regs are concerned solely with employers and employees and there is no definition within the regs of the word competent , so if your competent than you can do your own gas work legally and lawfully as you would be neither an employer or employee been competent means you know the regs and fit it to the current standard which I'm sure unless you have done your gas safe you won't know!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 The only thing the gas regs say about you doing your own gas work is that " any person working with gas must be a competant person" The rest of the regs are concerned solely with employers and employees and there is no definition within the regs of the word competent , so if your competent than you can do your own gas work legally and lawfully as you would be neither an employer or employee The new hob will need to be fitted with a ridged connection you cannot re fit it to the flexi!! So £80 is a good price and sounds about right to me! And I'm a gas/heating engineer so not talking from a DIY background been competent means you know the regs and fit it to the current standard which I'm sure unless you have done your gas safe you won't know!! It's not a gas hob, it turns out it was a cooker so is on a flexi. Our man is also correct in regard to working on YOUR OWN gas, the regs only state you must be competent... That said, I defy anybody who isn't gas qualified to carry out gas work, to the letter of the regulations, on their own installation. Quick one for the DIY'ers out there. How many of you, who would be prepared to work on your own gas supply, own a temporary continuity bond, or even know what one is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 can't beleive this thread rolls on, i don't go looking for this sort of work work as i'm generally to busy with other things. but really i can't see what would be so technical or worthy of £80 for this job. whether fitting a replacement backplate elbow and fitting or even fitting a hob if the worktop is cut and the hob is ready to fit pipe it up solder it and tightness test and purge 30 mins in and out £50 inc vat i would say.[ invoice and documentation supplied] sure you charge more down south but up here thats the going rate same as a callout. i will also add i am gas safe, oftec and have liability insurance, running my own business,van etc etc, with costs to cover there's nothing too special about being gas safe registered imo. back in the day when i was a tractor driver my pa1/2 pesticide cert was more difficult than the current ccn1 gas assesment you just have to look at the numpties passing it nowadays. certainly get the job done right but don't have your pants pulled down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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