JRDS Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 If im allowed my pennys worth without anyone crying I would strongly suggest fibre wad for use anywhere out of a clay ground, for the reasons already stated.. You bloody know it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 plastic /fibre who realy cares because i dont never heard so much twodle about so little kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Neither with Plastic Wads, horrible things. Pay a bit more for some fibre wads and stop polluting the countryside with plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesky Posted January 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 No don't know it all but this is a forum where the idea is you discuss things. If you really want to know what a cartridge is like buy a box and try it. Ok smart****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 For a good pigeon cart try :- Eley HB pigeon 32g No6.5 shot Hull special pigeon 32g No6 shot Express clear pigeon 30g no 6 I don't tend to shotgun rabbits as I prefer eating them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 No don't know it all but this is a forum where the idea is you discuss things. If you really want to know what a cartridge is like buy a box and try it. Ok smart****. Toys back in pram, if you try and give it learn to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Aight ladies we don't want any smudged blusher or whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesky Posted January 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 No don't know it all but this is a forum where the idea is you discuss things. If you really want to know what a cartridge is like buy a box and try it. Ok smart****. Toys back in pram, if you try and give it learn to take it. It's people like you who always have to have a go and spoil peoples threads. It was you who started the stone throwing with your smart remarks, dont make it out as if it was me who started it. If you want an argument that's ok but lets do it in pm. I asked a simple question and expected a simple answer not a lecture on a subject I never asked about or to be told to go and buy a box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Listen mate, nothing personal intended OK. Just making a comment about using plastic wads outside the Clay shooting ground it's not a personal slur, you quite often find that threads change from the original as they go on. A bit of banter is pretty common on here the aim is to not let it get personal, there's no need and at the end of the day we all love the same sport. If we all had the same opinions life would be pretty boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 I use plastic - it's a bigger picture thing. The farmer ain't bothered and doesn't keep live stock. People dump dozens of car tyres, cars, fridges, freezers, asbestos, household rubbish, industrial rubbish etc on the land and that has to be cleared up. Now, I am not saying that because some sod dumps waste that is far worse than a plastic wad that I should be able to dump minor items upto the value of say a small fridge or one car tyre I am saying that there is a bigger picture..... I have as yet not gone shooting with a Yaris driving, Peruvian hat wearing, lentil eating, carbon neutral, fully paid up card carrying member of Greenpeace, and no I haven't seen anyone matching that description at my local clay grounds either. So, I hope all you fibre wadders recycle everything and all cycle to work (on non rubber tyres that is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Our clay field has cattle in and we are fibre only. The farmer specifies fibre only and none of his cattle or sheep seem to have suffered from us shooting fibre wads over the land every week. Although I have no experience of the specific cartridges mentioned, I shoot fibre wadded Gamebores for clays and fibre wadded Express's for quarry through my 20 bore and have got on well with them however I have just changed to Hull Sterling game 28g of 6's and 5's through my 20 bore for quarry. :yp: Mungler, I walk to school, recycle glass, paper, tins, cardboard and plastic. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Our clay field has cattle in and we are fibre only. The farmer specifies fibre only and none of his cattle or sheep seem to have suffered from us shooting fibre wads over the land every week. Although I have no experience of the specific cartridges mentioned, I shoot fibre wadded Gamebores for clays and fibre wadded Express's for quarry through my 20 bore and have got on well with them however I have just changed to Hull Sterling game 28g of 6's and 5's through my 20 bore for quarry. :yp: Mungler, I walk to school, recycle glass, paper, tins, cardboard and plastic. FM Yeah well I bet they heat your school by burning the rarest rainforest trees and that your mum and dad's cars run on endangered Chimpanzees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 whos cares shoot and enjoy :yp: the countrys nackered anyway to men can get married and adopt a kid = poor little nipper the golly *** was taken of the marmalade jar =wots that about? they say you cant shoot a fox in it dont say fox on your ticket you cant legaly chase a fox with a dog or two just a few crazy thing that are in our country and you ******* are worried about bloody lead and plastic or fibre wads get a life wise up kick a ball about for an hour its great fun kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Our clay field has cattle in and we are fibre only. The farmer specifies fibre only and none of his cattle or sheep seem to have suffered from us shooting fibre wads over the land every week. Although I have no experience of the specific cartridges mentioned, I shoot fibre wadded Gamebores for clays and fibre wadded Express's for quarry through my 20 bore and have got on well with them however I have just changed to Hull Sterling game 28g of 6's and 5's through my 20 bore for quarry. Mungler, I walk to school, recycle glass, paper, tins, cardboard and plastic. FM Yeah well I bet they heat your school by burning the rarest rainforest trees and that your mum and dad's cars run on endangered Chimpanzees. Last time I checked it was either oil or gas in the case of the science labs where little pyromaniacs like myself are let loose with bunsen burners and butter to feed the flames! I think the cars run on diesel. Might be worth checking though as they have been making some strange noises lately. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 FM. Ask your teacher if you can put iron oxide powder and aluminium powder mix on a gauze above the bunsen next time he's cheerful, it's cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeboy Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 The problem with fibre wads is they can swell inside an animal. I've been on and around farms and livestock all my life and talked to many many farmers about the fibre vs plastic wad argument. Most but not all prefer fibre. However I've never met a farmer that has actually lost an animal from swallowing either plastic or felt wads. The thing that used to cause deaths were the old style can ring pulls, the type that actually come off of the can. These have apparently accounted for many animal deaths as they could rupture the stomach/reticulum. Leeboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 The problem with fibre wads is they can swell inside an animal. I've been on and around farms and livestock all my life and talked to many many farmers about the fibre vs plastic wad argument. Most but not all prefer fibre. However I've never met a farmer that has actually lost an animal from swallowing either plastic or felt wads. The thing that used to cause deaths were the old style can ring pulls, the type that actually come off of the can. These have apparently accounted for many animal deaths as they could rupture the stomach/reticulum. Leeboy cattle have 4 stomachs mate not just one !!! kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeboy Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 The problem with fibre wads is they can swell inside an animal. I've been on and around farms and livestock all my life and talked to many many farmers about the fibre vs plastic wad argument. Most but not all prefer fibre. However I've never met a farmer that has actually lost an animal from swallowing either plastic or felt wads. The thing that used to cause deaths were the old style can ring pulls, the type that actually come off of the can. These have apparently accounted for many animal deaths as they could rupture the stomach/reticulum. Leeboy cattle have 4 stomachs mate not just one !!! kirky Yes you are right, as in most ruminants (but not all). The reticulum is the second stomach and this generally catches any **** swallowed that shouldn't go right through the system. The reticulum is the stomach that gets damaged by foriegn objects most often. Kirky the fact that cattle have 4 stomachs is something I'm aware of as a farm manager and stockman ! Leeboy Leeboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 The problem with fibre wads is they can swell inside an animal. I've been on and around farms and livestock all my life and talked to many many farmers about the fibre vs plastic wad argument. Most but not all prefer fibre. However I've never met a farmer that has actually lost an animal from swallowing either plastic or felt wads. The thing that used to cause deaths were the old style can ring pulls, the type that actually come off of the can. These have apparently accounted for many animal deaths as they could rupture the stomach/reticulum. Leeboy cattle have 4 stomachs mate not just one !!! kirky Yes you are right, as in most ruminants (but not all). The reticulum is the second stomach and this generally catches any **** swallowed that shouldn't go right through the system. The reticulum is the stomach that gets damaged by foriegn objects most often. Kirky the fact that cattle have 4 stomachs is something I'm aware of as a farm manager and stockman ! Leeboy Leeboy 17 years on the farm learnt me a thing or two as well its a good life but poorly payed so i left do miss it sometimes kirky ps also did a few year at agri colleage yes your rite couldnt spell then niether happy days nibby one day i will go back on the fRM WHO KNOWS MATE ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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