Dangerous Brian Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Send Sitsinhedges a PM. He reloads 20 gauge and I think his loads are based on the Nobel sport data. I just use the data off the Hogdon website for the powder I have at the moment but will be going over to Sits' recipes when I have finished it. Failing that, have a look at Folkestone engineering website. They have a few recipes for most popular gauges (normal use at your own risk stuff) and can supply the components too. For .410 specifically; Climbing the North Face of the .410 gets my vote too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighit1985 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Cheers thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Who sells this "climbing the North face of the .410" publication please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 If this is true (and I am neither doubting nor endorsing it at present) why might data change even within say the three types of separate basewads in Remmington? Surely they all are different enough to create different pressures? We know it does for sure with two similar but not identical shot cups, different primers- to some degree even closure method. Can you reference this statement please? The reason is because you have been looking at American data and components which service a far larger market most if which aren't available over here and those that are cost double the European ones. We don't have the luxury of such in depth data but nevertheless manage just fine and safely with what we do have. We also have a Proof House for those who have any doubt about what they are putting down their barrels because how the components are put together can make as much difference as what they are. To the OP, the link you refer to is an American powder company hence the reference to Winchester C/F shells. The Folkestone Engineering Supplies website has some good data and links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighit1985 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Yeah I've looked at their website and they are the most local supplier to me. But they don't have all the recipes I need/want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Yeah I've looked at their website and they are the most local supplier to me. But they don't have all the recipes I need/want. What specific recipes do you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighit1985 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Want 20g game and clay doesn't matter what powder used I haven't got any at the moment so buy what I need. I'm not restricted by fibre so plastic wad recipes are fine. Then the same for .410. But in 21/2inch and 3inch carts as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 The reason is because you have been looking at American data and components which service a far larger market most if which aren't available over here and those that are cost double the European ones. We don't have the luxury of such in depth data but nevertheless manage just fine and safely with what we do have. We also have a Proof House for those who have any doubt about what they are putting down their barrels because how the components are put together can make as much difference as what they are. To the OP, the link you refer to is an American powder company hence the reference to Winchester C/F shells. The Folkestone Engineering Supplies website has some good data and links. So your saying buy the componants here make a few up, send them to the proof house for them to tell us their outdated opinion on things like steel. Then try them in your gun to see if they are actually any good. Sounds like I might stick to good published data and pay a little more as that could get sort of pricey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 So your saying buy the componants here make a few up, send them to the proof house for them to tell us their outdated opinion on things like steel. Then try them in your gun to see if they are actually any good. Sounds like I might stick to good published data and pay a little more as that could get sort of pricey You do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 You do that I suppose it largely depends on volume used, if I was using a few thousand .410 a should feel different than a few boxes of 10ga. Cost can then be spread out further per shell and as there are no British 10 ga stuff anyhow............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 clik on ballistic products inc web site . top right hand corner "load of the week" clik on it scroll down to "archived loads"right at the bottom of the page dated 02/27/09 fiocchi 410 there are 20 loads from 1/2oz to 3" 3/4oz on there that use gualandi (euro) wads with yank powders . the powders cost more than euro powders but when you are only using 10-14 grains it didnt bother me to much H110 was my powder of choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Brian Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Who sells this "climbing the North face of the .410" publication please? Not sure- sorry! Mine was bought for me as a present. I think it is only printed in small runs and it is not currently in stock at Amazon. Abe books have one but at £51 odd quid for a paperback it is taking the yellow liquid a bit. For the original OP: As for other sources I just remembered SIARM have some load data on their website (not tried them though) and Fourten.org have a recipe for a 3 inch .410 load which went OK when I loaded it (I used a CX50 primer and it was OK in my gun but you should check by working up to it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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