What ever is shooting coming to ?

[turbo33]

 

You talk about welfare but people who work dogs need to know when to run to the vet or not. If you are working dogs you should have a good grasp of how to look after them.

 

Don't quite understand your post, are you agreeing or disagreeing I know plenty of people who work dogs and horses and believe me, a high proportion do not have a good grasp of how to look after them! Asking on a forum for veterinary advice about if you should see a vet or not with your dog illustrates my point perfectly. Asking for peoples views about working dogs, and the dangers of Barley is a perfectly reasonable one. Its all about the risk factor. Based on my personal experience, I won't. The reasons are: Firstly the danger of awns as discussed by my experience and that of others. Secondly, as Harnser back tracked slightly saying they could damage standing crops. So if you are only going to pick them from the tramlines, or that nice laid patch, 25 yards out, what is the point subjecting a dog to the heat at this time of year and the risk, just to send it out to the killing zone and back?

 

Harnsers comparison of the seat belt/airbag scenario, is not quite the same thing as some of us are trying to put over. A more accurate comparison would be to say "I never have an accident, so why wear a seatbelt". The adder remark, is again, churlish. There is an area near to me that is a great place to exercise the dog. But, in the summer months, the adders are so numerous, its like snake confetti. Only a fool would take their dog through there, so I go somewhere else. The ignorant don't and their dogs get bitten. Its a bone headed mentality.

 

For me, its about the element of risk versus gain. Not much/nothing to gain and everything to lose..............why do it?

Edited June 24, 2014 by turbo33

[Ttfjlc]

If I could afford to shoot a £100.000 Purdy I'd have my man clean it and put it in its box in the Wange Wover and wouldn't worry about it what.

If a purdy can't take the weather and shooting our cheap tat might aswell go in the bin now.

Figgy

Now then figgy come on your 50k H&H and £30k land cruiser are not classed as cheap tat

[Harnser]

Don't quite understand your post, are you agreeing or disagreeing I know plenty of people who work dogs and horses and believe me, a high proportion do not have a good grasp of how to look after them! Asking on a forum for veterinary advice about if you should see a vet or not with your dog illustrates my point perfectly. Asking for peoples views about working dogs, and the dangers of Barley is a perfectly reasonable one. Its all about the risk factor. Based on my personal experience, I won't. The reasons are: Firstly the danger of awns as discussed by my experience and that of others. Secondly, as Harnser back tracked slightly saying they could damage standing crops. So if you are only going to pick them from the tramlines, or that nice laid patch, 25 yards out, what is the point subjecting a dog to the heat at this time of year and the risk, just to send it out to the killing zone and back?

 

Harnsers comparison of the seat belt/airbag scenario, is not quite the same thing as some of us are trying to put over. A more accurate comparison would be to say "I never have an accident, so why wear a seatbelt". The adder remark, is again, churlish. There is an area near to me that is a great place to exercise the dog. But, in the summer months, the adders are so numerous, its like snake confetti. Only a fool would take their dog through there, so I go somewhere else. The ignorant don't and their dogs get bitten. Its a bone headed mentality.

 

For me, its about the element of risk versus gain. Not much/nothing to gain and everything to lose..............why do it?

You are very lucky that you only have adders in one place . I can assure you that we have adders all over the farms and they have been a problem to dogs in the past . The comment is not churlish but is a fact . The snake problem is something that owners working dogs should take into consideration . Just another anomaly you have to consider when taking your dog in the field .

 

Harnser

[Harnser]

You are very lucky that you only have adders in one place . I can assure you that we have adders all over the farms and they have been a problem to dogs in the past . The comment is not churlish but is a fact . The snake problem is something that owners working dogs should take into consideration . Just another anomaly you have to consider when taking your dog in the field .Incidently dogs will normally get bitten on the nose or the tongue . Not normally fatal in a fit dog but vetinary treatment is required as soon as possible . I have seen two dogs bitten by adders out in the field over the years and both were bitten on the nose . Both made a full recovery after a visit to the vets .

Harnser

[Richie10]

 

Don't quite understand your post, are you agreeing or disagreeing I know plenty of people who work dogs and horses and believe me, a high proportion do not have a good grasp of how to look after them! Asking on a forum for veterinary advice about if you should see a vet or not with your dog illustrates my point perfectly. Asking for peoples views about working dogs, and the dangers of Barley is a perfectly reasonable one. Its all about the risk factor. Based on my personal experience, I won't. The reasons are: Firstly the danger of awns as discussed by my experience and that of others. Secondly, as Harnser back tracked slightly saying they could damage standing crops. So if you are only going to pick them from the tramlines, or that nice laid patch, 25 yards out, what is the point subjecting a dog to the heat at this time of year and the risk, just to send it out to the killing zone and back?

 

Harnsers comparison of the seat belt/airbag scenario, is not quite the same thing as some of us are trying to put over. A more accurate comparison would be to say "I never have an accident, so why wear a seatbelt". The adder remark, is again, churlish. There is an area near to me that is a great place to exercise the dog. But, in the summer months, the adders are so numerous, its like snake confetti. Only a fool would take their dog through there, so I go somewhere else. The ignorant don't and their dogs get bitten. Its a bone headed mentality.

 

For me, its about the element of risk versus gain. Not much/nothing to gain and everything to lose..............why do it?

 

I would be more worried about the heat and don't like to work dogs in this heat, I don't shoot in this heat anyway and getting decent bags over standing crop variable. If i shoot something i want to take it home.