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Thanks UltraStu that has made me feel better, for some reason I had 55 yards in my head for hft! didn't know about the 40mm size targets either, in reality I won't have too many opportunities to do hft but nice to know based on what I've found so far and what you've said I feel a bit more confident in having a go sooner rather than later. You're right about the hunting side as well, I know all my distances in my garden but it's a different ball game when on an open field.

Oldypigeonpopper, I took the o-ring out of the barrel band so will see how that goes, also went to my RFD to get my bottle filled and he didn't have any LT1 but had an opened bottle of Napier lube and gave me that free of charge. Mice, interesting idea about different aimpoints, my S400 was single shot so know what you mean about having to reset everytime, I also find after putting 4 or 5 pellets close together it gets harder since you've taken out the centre of the target. UltraStu, I've cleaned the barrel on my hw100 3 or 4 times already in less than a months ownership, my S400 never needed to have a barrel clean in 2 years, funny things these pcps. Wobbly Bob 2, I take it you don't use your KT for hunting or did you find a better pellet than AADFs? I find it intriguing that you say 5p groups are rubbish, when I saw my RFD today he said he'd be happy with 5p groups at 40 yards and he certainly knows his stuff.

Oldypigeonpopper, I made the mistake of spending hours reading about potential problems, barrels twisting, dodgy threads, rough crowns etc, however the one that did catch my interest was opinions were divided on whether or not to removal the o ring from the barrel band. Mice, good point about the confidence thing, like I said earlier I have put 3 or 4 pellets on top of each other thinking I'm on a roll only to have the next 1 or 2 go slightly wayward and you're spot on as I then swear at myself and lose concentration. UltraStu, much appreciated for the pictures, I've often read about people putting 'pellet on pellet' at so and so yards, 'pellet through the same hole' is another one that comes up a bit but without actually posting pictures. This is why I asked to see people's targets to simply have a rough idea of what to aim for, nice looking groups with both guns.

Yes mate barrel cleaned, just may need a few more pellets down the barrel as those groups were after around 2 or 3 mags, thing I should remember is those are 14 shot groups, I've put 3 or 4 pellets on top of each other during a round, some people only do 5 shot groups where as I like to do a full mag. Just zeroed to 30 yards tonight and it's grouping nicely. What I'm curious about is what size groups are people happy with at any given range with their own guns?

I have read reviews on pellet lube, plenty are for and against it but I'll get some and when I get the chance I'll post the pictures. Interesting to read about your mate's gun, what did he do with it in the end? I have read that some people simply can't get on with a gun, did you have a go with it? I'm still not 100% happy with mine and my RFD has said if need be he'll have a look over it in case something is not quite right, those weihrauch pellets do have barracuda match on the bottom of the tin.

Thanks for the tip

Geez mate not more expense! I gather it tightened your groups pal?

Evening all, well after a lot of expense, foul language, sulking and sighing I believe that JSB Heavies are what my HW100 prefers. The 1st picture is of several brands, top targets at 30 yards bottom target 40 yards, wasn't impressed with most of them so it was suggested that I try a scope with a finer reticle, different scope sourced from a very kind RFD to try before buying, 2nd picture is from tonight with Airarms express 7.9s at 40 yards, 3rd picture is again from tonight with JSB Heavies 10.34s at 40 yards. All shooting done outside with a bit of breeze, shooting from a bench with bipod plus a rest under stock, test scope on x12 zoom, no 'pulled shots' as gun was rock steady.

When did it stop working? Have you tried updating the satellites by plugging it into a computer?

No offense taken wobbly Bob 2 and Mice I appreciate the support, been shooting springers on and off over the years, got a huntsman classic 6 years ago which was my first venture into the world of pcps, jsb's or AADF were all it ever needed, same went for the s400 I had for 2 years, that was ridiculously accurate, once I get paper punching with a few different pellets I'll post the pictures on here for wobbly Bob 2 to scrutinize then await his request for some cheap pellets.

Like your style, buy a new gun simply to use spare pellets up.

Thanks for that info, like I said the RFD gave me them to try as he'd been told they weren't very good and could I try them through my gun and let him know how I got on. I was quite impressed with the accuracy around 30 yards but hadn't considered the bc, I'll be out on Saturday getting more pellets based on all the recommendations, again out of interest, what do the likes of yourself and others do with all the pellets that don't suit your guns? Reason I ask is if I only had one or two tins I'd just use them for plinking but I can see me ending up with quite a few and wondered if people sold/swapped them or divided them up to sell as pellet samples.

Thanks for the advice, hopefully this weather turns for the better soon, we're surrounded by open fields so rarely have a proper still day to do any accurate testing but either way I'll post the results when I get chance. No I haven't pal, somebody posted earlier saying he had some gunk in his so I'll look into that as well.

Thanks for that, the reason I asked was because I've been in to get some pellets and sometimes they only have 1 or 2 tins on the shelves of a particular brand. I know what you mean about certain manufacturers making pellets for several companies, weihrauch branded pellets are made by JSB and H&N. Thanks for that, knowing my luck the best pellet will be last of the batch . Trust me UltraStu if you saw some of my groups I would be wasting my time hunting , seriously though I haven't got permissions yet for air rifle hunting, just wanting to test my abilities to see what I and the gun can do, next will be to find a bit of land to paper punch to 50-55 yards with the chosen pellet and go from there. by the way I thought I was building up a collection of pellets with 5 tins, then I worked out you have at least 60! On a side note my RFD gave me these flatheads to try, not sure what is normally the max range for flats but at 33 yards I could cover 5 shots with a 5p coin.

Thanks for that I'll buy a tin of those to try as well, have you now had to go back to testing again? Might sound a bit daft but how do you try and get pellets from the same 'good' batch?