jimmyb79 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 The best bullet I've used in my 223 was the factory Hornady 40gr v-max. I'm now reloading the 40gr with 26.6gr of H335 which according to the reloading manual will give 3600fps and a nice flat round to 200 yards. Ideal for foxing in all but strong winds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Thanks all I shall stick to 40s then lambing next week then will pop and get some week after Colin Wouldn't do any harm to look at the Nosler 40gr BT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Wouldn't do any harm to look at the Nosler 40gr BT. will see if they have some in maybe a box of them and a box of vmax to find which my barrel likes though it seems to like most, well all but the s & b rounds i tried they were awful colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 i have at one point or other used 35, 40, 50, 52, 53, 55, and 60gr in my .222 I now use 52gr and 60gr exclusively There is little benefit to running 40's hot (3400fps+) when a 50-55gr run at book MV's (3200fps) has better windage and energy downrange the trajectory difference is marginal and beyond the realms of what most people can shoot at 300+ You are talking 1/2" at 400yds! you are however talking 4-5" difference with a 10mph wind...a very light wind in most circumstances what counts them out for me is the energy past 150yds they are down on energy compared to the heavier bullet http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=%5BPreset+Name%5D&presets=&df=G1&bc=0.200&bw=40&vi=3400&zr=100&sh=1.5&sa=0&ws=10&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=400&ss=25&chartColumns=Range~yd%3BElevation~in%3BElevation~MOA~FBFFF5%3BElevation~MIL%3BWindage~in%3BWindage~MOA~FBFFF5%3BWindage~MIL%3BTime~s%3BEnergy~ft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D~ft%2Fs&lbl=&submitst=+Create+Chart+ http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=%5BPreset+Name%5D&presets=&df=G1&bc=0.242&bw=50&vi=3200&zr=100&sh=1.5&sa=0&ws=10&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=400&ss=25&chartColumns=Range~yd%3BElevation~in%3BElevation~MOA~FBFFF5%3BElevation~MIL%3BWindage~in%3BWindage~MOA~FBFFF5%3BWindage~MIL%3BTime~s%3BEnergy~ft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D~ft%2Fs&lbl=&submitst=+Create+Chart+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) i have at one point or other used 35, 40, 50, 52, 53, 55, and 60gr in my .222 I now use 52gr and 60gr exclusively There is little benefit to running 40's hot (3400fps+) when a 50-55gr run at book MV's (3200fps) has better windage and energy downrange the trajectory difference is marginal and beyond the realms of what most people can shoot at 300+ You are talking 1/2" at 400yds! you are however talking 4-5" difference with a 10mph wind...a very light wind in most circumstances what counts them out for me is the energy past 150yds they are down on energy compared to the heavier bullet http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=%5BPreset+Name%5D&presets=&df=G1&bc=0.200&bw=40&vi=3400&zr=100&sh=1.5&sa=0&ws=10&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=400&ss=25&chartColumns=Range~yd%3BElevation~in%3BElevation~MOA~FBFFF5%3BElevation~MIL%3BWindage~in%3BWindage~MOA~FBFFF5%3BWindage~MIL%3BTime~s%3BEnergy~ft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D~ft%2Fs&lbl=&submitst=+Create+Chart+ http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=%5BPreset+Name%5D&presets=&df=G1&bc=0.242&bw=50&vi=3200&zr=100&sh=1.5&sa=0&ws=10&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=400&ss=25&chartColumns=Range~yd%3BElevation~in%3BElevation~MOA~FBFFF5%3BElevation~MIL%3BWindage~in%3BWindage~MOA~FBFFF5%3BWindage~MIL%3BTime~s%3BEnergy~ft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D~ft%2Fs&lbl=&submitst=+Create+Chart+ Depends if you stick to the standard pressures for 222. Based on older and weaker actions! The case is as strong as 223 and with forty grainers +3800fps is available in normal strong actions.Then it starts to get interesting! U. Edited February 2, 2015 by Underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 http://www.weihrauch-sport.de/seiten/englisch/match%20und%20jagd/e_match_und_jagd.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Depends if you stick to the standard pressures for 222. Based on older and weaker actions! The case is as strong as 223 and with forty grainers +3800fps is available in normal strong actions. Then it starts to get interesting! U. Agree I have never hit pressure signs on any loads well past max book loads in a BRNO Fox made in the 60's! just never chased MV for the hell of it when accuracy can be found lower down but then you also have the comparable increase in MV for a 50gr with better BC 3500fps is easily doable you need to run out of legs on the heavier bullet and create a very large gap between the Max MV's to justify it IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted February 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 i have at one point or other used 35, 40, 50, 52, 53, 55, and 60gr in my .222 I now use 52gr and 60gr exclusively There is little benefit to running 40's hot (3400fps+) when a 50-55gr run at book MV's (3200fps) has better windage and energy downrange the trajectory difference is marginal and beyond the realms of what most people can shoot at 300+ You are talking 1/2" at 400yds! you are however talking 4-5" difference with a 10mph wind...a very light wind in most circumstances what counts them out for me is the energy past 150yds they are down on energy compared to the heavier bullet http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=%5BPreset+Name%5D&presets=&df=G1&bc=0.200&bw=40&vi=3400&zr=100&sh=1.5&sa=0&ws=10&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=400&ss=25&chartColumns=Range~yd%3BElevation~in%3BElevation~MOA~FBFFF5%3BElevation~MIL%3BWindage~in%3BWindage~MOA~FBFFF5%3BWindage~MIL%3BTime~s%3BEnergy~ft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D~ft%2Fs&lbl=&submitst=+Create+Chart+ http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=%5BPreset+Name%5D&presets=&df=G1&bc=0.242&bw=50&vi=3200&zr=100&sh=1.5&sa=0&ws=10&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=400&ss=25&chartColumns=Range~yd%3BElevation~in%3BElevation~MOA~FBFFF5%3BElevation~MIL%3BWindage~in%3BWindage~MOA~FBFFF5%3BWindage~MIL%3BTime~s%3BEnergy~ft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D~ft%2Fs&lbl=&submitst=+Create+Chart+ can see what your saying, the reason for the lighter bullet was more for longer range rabbits and crow, the energy level loss not too much of a problem on rabbits but could see it with fox's, though the wind drift is more a concern, if i can get a flatter shooting round then i could look at doing away with the hmr as reloads are not much more than hmr prices, colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Have you ever seen one of those?If that question is to me then yes, I owned one. In fact I shot my longest fox ever with it. I used a 52grn Speer hpbt match bullet pushed by h322 for a leisurely 2850 fps. 388 paces, twice! It was still wriggling after the first. The second ended it! 7x meopta scope.I was about 24 :-(. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 i have at one point or other used 35, 40, 50, 52, 53, 55, and 60gr in my .222 I now use 52gr and 60gr exclusively There is little benefit to running 40's hot (3400fps+) when a 50-55gr run at book MV's (3200fps) has better windage and energy downrange the trajectory difference is marginal and beyond the realms of what most people can shoot at 300+ You are talking 1/2" at 400yds! you are however talking 4-5" difference with a 10mph wind...a very light wind in most circumstances what counts them out for me is the energy past 150yds they are down on energy compared to the heavier bullet http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=%5BPreset+Name%5D&presets=&df=G1&bc=0.200&bw=40&vi=3400&zr=100&sh=1.5&sa=0&ws=10&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=400&ss=25&chartColumns=Range~yd%3BElevation~in%3BElevation~MOA~FBFFF5%3BElevation~MIL%3BWindage~in%3BWindage~MOA~FBFFF5%3BWindage~MIL%3BTime~s%3BEnergy~ft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D~ft%2Fs&lbl=&submitst=+Create+Chart+ http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=%5BPreset+Name%5D&presets=&df=G1&bc=0.242&bw=50&vi=3200&zr=100&sh=1.5&sa=0&ws=10&wa=90&ssb=on&cr=400&ss=25&chartColumns=Range~yd%3BElevation~in%3BElevation~MOA~FBFFF5%3BElevation~MIL%3BWindage~in%3BWindage~MOA~FBFFF5%3BWindage~MIL%3BTime~s%3BEnergy~ft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D~ft%2Fs&lbl=&submitst=+Create+Chart+ Never quite managed 400, 16 inch is just too short to get the velocity needed. Am settled on re-barrel to 223 ai 1:8 when funds allow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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