Mentalmac Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Hi All, My step daughters grandmother (on her real dads side) has a labradoodle (F1 - so 50% lab 50% poodle) but looks just like a lab but with slightly curlier longer hair on the body... she also has a yellow labrador and wants to breed them. I don't really know anything much about dogs yet, so wondered if the great PW thought this was a weird or bad idea? Here's a photo of the dogs she wants to breed: I only ask as if you think it's bad and have some comments I'll happily try my utmost to discourage her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffjjack Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 My concern would be what are they breeding for? Working dogs? Profit? I haven't got issues with breeding just there seems to be an excessive amount of breeding for the sake of money or fashion dogs at the minute. The resulting dogs would have the traits of all breeds and as such would be trainable to most tasks as required. What standard they will achieve is debatable but with the correct consistent training good results should be obtainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 To ensure the pups are healthy they would need the same health checks hip score etc as pedigree labs. Expensive for 2 dogs if only one litter planned. If they have a poor score and are not suitable for breeding you have still had to pay out. You need to find suitable homes for up to 10 puppies with labs. Puppies are very messy once Mum stops cleaning up after them so they are best in a kennel or somewhere you can swill down. Need to be fully mature around 2 before breeding for a big breed. On a more pro breeding note, if nobody did any breeding where would we get the next dog from. I am sure more comments will be added as the day goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffjjack Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 On a more pro breeding note, if nobody did any breeding where would we get the next dog from. I am sure more comments will be added as the day goes on. With over 110,000 stray and abandoned dogs in the uk and growing the need for breeding fashion dogs isn't a necessity. Working breeds usually find good homes but fashion dogs end up anywhere. If the breeder is responsible enough to ensure good, vetted, homes for all puppies and able to keep any puppies left over until homes are found I have no problem with breeding. Pushing puppies to anyone that come along to get rid of them is irresponsible and the likelihood of one or more of the puppies ending up in kennels or on the street increases dramatically. Just my opinion tho...like lori said above more will comment and the thread progresses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted February 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Thanks for your inputs Lorius and Jeffjack. I know that her family members want one (she has 5 kids all of whom are adults with families nearby) plus she wants one - her husband is an ex farm manager recently retired but still shoots. She said that she wants them both scored anyway and would check them out before breeding, but that's all I know on that front. She offered me one if she does go ahead - but I am unsure if it would make for a good first dog to teach to become a gundog... So may decline on that. Just worry about the whole breeding aspect, I just wonder if it's the best idea really, seems awful hard work and a lot of stress and worry - and expensive. Edited February 26, 2015 by Mentalmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMT Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 As someone who has had a few litters of "hydrids" as they are now known (mongrels when I was a lad), I can try and point you in the right direction. Apologies if I am teaching you to suck eggs. If you breed your labradoodle with a labrador you will have F1B puppies. These are not as popular as F1's by a long way. Apart from the fashion aspects a lot of people by hybrids because the coat sheds less than say a lab. If you have an F1B with 75% lab, the coat will shed like a lab. As for health test, most people today will want hips, elbows, PRa and CNM for anything with lab in it. I also own a grooming parlour so I see lots and lots of new puppies and labradoodles have definitely had their day. Even Cockapoos are on the decline. One last thing to think of is the risk to the bitch if anything goes wrong during whelping not to mention the cost if you need an emergency C-section on a Sunday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffjjack Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 One last thing to think of is the risk to the bitch if anything goes wrong during whelping not to mention the cost if you need an emergency C-section on a Sunday night. Just worry about the whole breeding aspect, I just wonder if it's the best idea really, seems awful hard work and a lot of stress and worry - and expensive. It can be as easy as peas!! or it can be a nightmare as EMT has touched on. At the end of the day animals have been having litters on their own for centuries but when it does go wrong you need the knowledge, confidence (and sometimes funds) to do the right thing for the bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee-kinsman Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 How old is the dog on the left of the picture? If that's a bitch it's much to old and overweight to pup in my opinion. And if it's it's a dog I think it will struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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