nnorman32 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Hello. Anyone got a manual or link for a 12g Fabarm Elligi semi auto, I borrowed one from a gun shop and ended up buying it the same day. It is fine with 70mm 28g loads but didn't cycle 65mm 21g light loads. Any one tried 24g cartridges out of interest? I'm interested if the cartridge size makes a difference in semi autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 It is possibly the lenght rather than load , many autos do not like 65mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 simple stick to 70mm then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnorman32 Posted September 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Went down the range today with different cartridges.I saw an advert that someone selling this brand of gun cycles 21g light cartridges so I used some 65mm 21g, they loaded but did not eject. so tried 70mm 24g which would not eject or load, then tried 67mm 28g which would not eject or load, went home with the hump and took gun apart and cleaned everything and light spray with GT85 (This makes your coffee taste horrible by the way) Returned and tried 70mm 28g loads and works fine, got a different brand of 70mm 28g from the range and they worked they too. So I have a cartridge fussy semi auto that only likes 70mm 28g loads, now need to find a cheap magnet stick to pick up all the empty's. Edited September 13, 2015 by nnorman32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Most semis prefer hulls within a quarter an inch of their chambering. Problem is most semis come with 3 inch chamber as manufacturers try to cover all bases. When most try to use inexpensive lightish clay and pigeon loads through them. (67mm} they tend not to like it. My franchi will cycle light loads down to 21g in 70mm but sometimes does't like light and short loads. I.e. Will cycle eley amber but not first select lites Edited September 13, 2015 by Stonepark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Crimped case length is important as the cartridge coming out of the mag activates the mag interrupter which prevents the next cartridge from coming out of the mag , to short a case and it will not cut off . Light loads may not have enough kick back to throw the bolt far enough back to operate and as many of these guns use a hybrid of gas to operate the bolt they rely on recoil as part of the mag release . Don't care what any one else says and based on my long time in the trade , autos like a little oil ! Edited September 13, 2015 by Gunman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Crimped case length is important as the cartridge coming out of the mag activates the mag interrupter which prevents the next cartridge from coming out of the mag , to short a case and it will not cut off . Light loads may not have enough kick back to throw the bolt far enough back to operate and as many of these guns use a hybrid of gas to operate the bolt they rely on recoil as part of the mag release . Don't care what any one else says and based on my long time in the trade , autos like a little oil ! It is basically impossible to over oil an auto, what ever anyone else says........ any excess simply drips or gets thrown off moving parts Mine likes ballistol with a little WS2 mixed into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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