Gun Identification

[OffAim]

I am about to be tasked with disposing of some 'inherited' shotguns either via Private Sale or through an RFD who will sell them for a customer.

 

I think I am going to have difficulty identifying which models they are and what the possible value may be; but would I be right thinking an RFD 'selling on behalf of' would want to make as much as possible in the way of commisson, he would price them realistically?

 

As I can only legally hold them for 72 hours, I imagine the RFD route is probably the best way, rather than handing them directly to the Police.

 

AL

 

 

[FalconFN]

I would have thought that an RFD would be the least stressful and most convenient, and they should be able to know/guess what the guns are as well as anyone. I think cheaper guns are sometimes just sold as Spanish, or Belgium rather than giving a makers name.

 

If you wanted to know what they are (and if they aren't properly described on the cert) then it could be worth posting pictures in here for advice - you wouldn't want to sell fine old English gun for the price of a cheaper gun.

[Gunman]

Agreeing a price with an RFD for the sale of guns can be done in two ways after discussion and valuation.

1 Agree the actual amount you want and allow him to make what he can on top of that price ,giving him a sensible commission on the sale for his time and admin .

2 Agree a fixed percentage of the sale price giving him leeway to set and alter the sale price for either speed of sale and market trends .

 

This will of course depend on the guns age ,condition and sell-ability which needs to ascertained prior to any valuations .

Another alternate is to put them into an auction ,the pit falls being that they may not sell ,or get knocked down at a lower price than you expected . You also to pay up to 20% commission and you can wait several weeks to get paid after the sale .

[OffAim]

Thanks both.......You confirm what I thought......

 

As far as I know at the moment, there are two Midlands 12G OU and one Rizzini 12G OU (that's the one IMO which has the chance of being a good model)......

 

I guess that as soon as I get the chance to have inspected them, I ought to hand them to the RFD for safekeeping, rather than him putting them up for sale straightaway.........

 

That way I don't have to add them to my certificate, but have some time to take some pics and post them here.

 

AL

Edited February 14, 2016 by OffAim

[ChrisAsh]

What description is on the owners licence?

[OffAim]

Hi Chris.....

 

Just as I posted them above plus serial numbers.

 

I saw them about three years ago, but didn't take any real notice, so I can't recall if they were MC or SST.

 

I'm guessing the Midlands are those made for Parker Hale as I thought the Midland Gun Co. disappeared in 1970-ish.

 

I'm waiting to get my hands on them, so I can look at the proof marks and anything else that will give me a model name or number.

 

There is also a Webley .410 BA, which I might keep for myself........all depends on the chamber size and condition.

 

My own Webley .410 BA is 3 shot, 3" chamber; 5 Ton Proof and full choke.

 

AL

 

PS, I'm not too far from you.

Edited February 14, 2016 by OffAim

[fenboy]

There is more than one Rizzini making guns , if it is a E . Rizzini chances are it is not worth a great deal.

[Kalahari]

You should be able to get them put onto your ticket or onto a section 7 ticket to allow you to dispose of them properly to maximise benefit to the estate. Talk to your firearms dept.

 

David

[OffAim]

Thanks for all the advice..........I managed to inspect them and identify the models within a day of transferring them to an RFD for 'sale on behalf of'............I went down that route as the 'buy in for stock' values should probably be significantly bettered.

 

I decided to take an old .410 BA for surrender / destruction.........when I pulled the bolt out and looked up the barrel from breech end, it looked like it hadn't been cleaned since last fired maybe 10 years ago.

 

Once I had cleaned it, I didn't like what I saw in the bore starting just a short distance in from the inner end of the chamber.....all the way along the barrel on 'one side' there was a continuous series of what looked like dimples, the largest ones at least 8mm in diameter.........almost looked as though the barrel was bent or it had been laying in water..................I wouldn't consider test firing it even with a light load cartridge.

 

Never seen one that bad.

 

Firearms Officer was really helpful, took the bad one in plus one of mine; then did all the paperwork while I waited, even though I was acting on behalf of another holder.