neilbe2 Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 i was recently talking to a guy who shoots these hawks because he says there a pest, he also states that they dont come under the same protection law as other bird of prey...is this correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Mate, Get caught killing a 'spar' and you're going to jail...no question. And bye bye licence...the guy you spoke to is a w*nker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I hope you never speak to that man again. Or, seriously rebuke him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 totally agree with deako.the bloke is either mad or a liar.all birds of prey are protected,no exceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilbe2 Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 totally agree with deako.the bloke is either mad or a liar.all birds of prey are protected,no exceptions. my thoughts exactly!...i wouldnt shoot them either way, im a big fan of b.o.p thats why i started this topic...i should cut this blokes liver out and feed it to the pigs!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilbe2 Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Sparrowhawks and the law The sparrowhawk is fully protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, which makes it an offence to kill, injure or take an adult sparrowhawk, or to take, damage or destroy an active nest or its contents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 (edited) What is the BOP, a dance? Edited February 10, 2004 by red_stag88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_88 Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 b.o.p bird of prey i am guesing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROUT POUT Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I could never pull the trigger at a BOP, one time i was out with me airgun and i was waitin for pigeons, a sparrowhawk perched above me then quickly took off hunting field fares about 10yrd away!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 We have large numbers of buzzards near us, I was stalking a Babbit once, and one came and nicked it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Misser Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I was stalking a Babbit once New breed the Babbit?? :yp: I've heard of Rabbit and of course the Pesky Wabbit but not a babbit :*) Sorry couldn't resist :*) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 A babbit is the term used by some to describe a baby rabbit. Thats two people who need to wipe that egg off there visage now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Misser Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I hang my head in shame RS and bow to your supirior knowledge (I thought it was a typo really) :*) Just fetching a cloth to remove the egg..... (But did you know a baby rabbit is actually called a Kit see here because I didn't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Never knew it was a kit actually. Intersesting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Thats two people who need to wipe that egg off there visage now Oh thanks red rub it in why not, ill get you back just you watch your back. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fisherman Mike Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Neilb2 As I have said before on these pages my first love is ornithology and my second would be to meet this guy who shoots Sparrow hawks Neil and give him a good kicking. I hope you dont consider him as a friend as he is an imbicile in my mind. Sparrow hawks populations were very low generally in this country before the first war and started to recover from the late 20,s onwards. It has been suggested that this was due to the number of Game Keepers who were called up for active service. DDT insecticide widely used in the 60,s & 70,s also contributed. The Chemicals ingested through the food chain causing infertility and thinning of egg shells causing breakage. I cant see how they can be a pest as they infact take very few game bird chicks & poults as their prey is normally taken on the wing and wouldnt generally be bigger than a Blackbird. You often find them dead on the lawn having attacked their own reflection in a large window or occassionally tangled up in a black thorn bush where they have fearlessly follwed the smaller prey in on the wing. A adult Sparrow Hawk in rapid hunting flight twisting and turning at speed through suburban gardens is a wonderful sight indeed and if witnessed can only be admired. Any one who would want to kill kill such a creature in the name of pest control must be brain dead in my opinion. The Buzzard population nationally has shown a steep increase. When Myxomatosis was introduced for the control of the rabbit Population in the 60,s these Birds were almost wiped out. The Rabbit being their staple diet. Thankfully many Rabbit populations show some immunity to Myxi. I am confident all BOP populations and some of the rarer species of birds which were once so common in Britain will show strong increase in population over the decades to come now that Farming policy is leaning towards the organic way. Wouldnt it be nice to hear the call of the Grey Partridge or Corncrake again in British fields?. I cant believe the modern shoot organiser would begrudge a few of his rearings each season to these magnificent creatures.... FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Well said FM, I'll be second in the queue to deliver the kicking. All BOP's are brilliant to watch, and should be savoured. One of the best sights I've seen was whilst pigeon shooting with a pal on an estate near Dumfries/Lockerbie. I shot a pigeon and as I reloaded a buzzard dropped in and covered it, covering it with it's wings and watching me all the time. It was only about 30 yards away. Fantastic sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 I saw a eagle once, in ruddy staffordshire. FM, you are on par with HG, Col pol and PP for this months "Post Geek" award Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilbe2 Posted February 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Mike, i couldnt agree more.ill never forget a time 2 years ago when i was on a roost shoot and i was just entering the wood when i spotted a pigeon coming in, i raised the gun and dropped the woody onto a field close to were i was stood, within seconds of it hitting the ground a sprrowhawk came from nowere, stood on top of it and started eating it. this was a first for me and i stood there admiring this amazing hunter for what seemed like 30 minutes i totally ignored the flocks of pigeons coming my way, didnt want to shoot incase i scared the hawk away. i moved up into the wood to do what i came to do. on the way home i picked the stripped carcuss up and felt happy that she'd had a fill.......amazing! the guy who told me about them been pests was just some oddball stood shooting rabbits in a field near were we were fishing.....i should have slung him in!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Or nicked his ear on your false cast with a nice size 8 cats whisker Barbless of course Or were you maggot bashing? How are the waters fishing, is it warm enough for them to be preatty active yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quercus Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 On the other hand there is an increasingly strong argument for a legalised cull. http://www.songbird-survival.org.uk/tech1.htm http://www.scottishgamekeepers.co.uk/rapto...tor_problem.htm http://www.nationalgamekeepers.org.uk/pres...000/030200.html http://www.gct.org.uk/press/2000/press83.html While I would not dispute the beauty and grace of all birds of prey the increasing numbers, particularly of sparrowhawks and buzzards is worrying. Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 I feel sorry for the gamekeepers. I know from experience on my fathers small shoot that the buzzard population has soared and they kill more birds than foxes on his shoot, but theres nothing you can do about it there protected and all birds of prey are great to watch in action. I remember roost shooting one night and i missed a pigeon zooming past me and i didn't notice the peregrine behind it and it succeded where i had failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 I was shooting partrages on a shoot near wales, every drive the beaters put up atleast two buzzards. Nice to see, cocked up some drives though. There woulnt be so many if they had decent picker ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 The problem we have around our area in my opinion is the same as the foxes, I think they are releasing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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