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I'd like to think that I can more than 'scrape by' when using factory loads on ducks. A 36 gm of no 1 or 2 has killed many high ducks, factory loaded or not.

HIGH is a broad margin, probable that broad a margin there is no room left to write on this page.

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Well, what do you consider to be a high shot on a duck.

As high as i can get a suitable pattern of appropriatly lethal shot on the bird , to talk yards on an open forum is suicide you know that as much as me. Man it would do 18 pages easy and then get locked at a crucial bit. :lol:

I prefer using reloads on LONG RANGE Duck at the ranges i shoot them.

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I shot long range rabbits a few times. 2s 4s etc.

I didn't hit everything I aimed at. But I shot a few.

Not much meat damage as pattern is very thin.

 

I've used 3" and 3.5".

 

Shots like that are far and few between.

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As i said i am ok for a few years yet for a Steel and Blue dot i will get by for life probably, But for those not so fortunate i feel for you, and i think the best options would be these, For ten and super magnum 12s vitavouri 3N38, and Magnum or shorter chambered 12s magnum goose loads SSB150, not tried SSB150 in any light high speed 12s but not many seem to chose higher speed steel now. If we could turn up some M92S in regular supply i would go back to some fast loads i used back in the day thats for sure.

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For 12 bore 3" and 3 1/2" steel then vihtsvouri n105 is the powder

You any data youd share on 105 i looked at it but on a burn rate chart it looked a bit steady for this, i know burn rate charts are not a guide as such or to be trusted of course.

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Vihtavouri N105 Proofed data - use at your own risk

 

1 - 12g 86mm Cheddite, CX2000, 46gr N105, LBC53, 39g Steel 1;s, 6 point crimp with OMV 3 finish

Average Velocity - 452MS 1484 fps Average Pressure 921 Bar

 

2 - 12g 76mm Cheddite, CX200, 46gr N105, B&P35, 35g Steel 1's, 6 Point crimp with OMV 3 finish

Average Velocity - 461MS 1514 fps Average pressure 873 Bar

 

3 - As above but 42gr N105 gives average speed 422MS 1387fps with average pressure of 800 Bar

 

4 - 12 bore 76mm Cheddite, CX2000 LBC48, 37g Steel 1,s, RTO with Frangible disc

Average speed 444MS 1457fps with average pressure of 812 Bar

 

This is a taster - I have done a fair few loads but they cost me a lot of money to get proofed and the world is full of takers..........

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