leeds chimp Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Looking to change my car in the next few weeks... only reason is that it is petrol and the mpg is killing my wallet.... Looking at another vaux insignia.... Now I want to try and bypass the forecourt and try and get in contact with maybe fleet management to save some ££ ..,,,anyone on here deal with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Not totally clear, are you looking to lease/contract hire new ? If so your best route is the internet, google up a few instant quotes, ring one or two up and tell them your exact requirements ref deposit, term, mileage etc. Some makes have in house lease specialists who will get close if not match quotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 If you mean you want to buy an ex-fleet car directly out of fleet management, then forget it. They are not set up for selling to the public, with all the legal liability status that entails (Consumer Rights Act, etc), and only sell on to the trade, either through auctions or directly to dealerships / groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted August 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 If you mean you want to buy an ex-fleet car directly out of fleet management, then forget it. They are not set up for selling to the public, with all the legal liability status that entails (Consumer Rights Act, etc), and only sell on to the trade, either through auctions or directly to dealerships / groups.Thats the answer I was not looking for.... Was just hoping to cut out the Middle man... would treat it just like a private sale tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) You can get them from the auctions, auction houses hold details/dates of when companies are offloading their fleet.There will be second hand car dealers bidding but no big major dealer's just the (Arthur Daily types).If you can get a decent motor, you can the arrange a warranty through Warranty Direct or the likes.There is a big one in Washington that gets a lot of finance surrender cars (where people cant afford to keep it and give it back to the finance house if they have paid the surrender amount on the finance.Seen some crackers go through as finance house only wants the outstanding debt. Edited August 16, 2016 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Aha, so you want to buy an ex-fleet motor cheaply by cutting out the dealer. It's not like these are likely to have been thrashed daily to within an inch of their lives by owners who know they're automatically onto the next one without having to worry about who picks it up next. It's not as if the dealer is going to prep the car properly for the pitch with a mega valet, new front tyres at least, recon alloys, raise the dents, sort the bumper scuffs, maybe even paint the whole bonnet, do a service and MOT which'll bring up any issues like new discs and pads or loose exhaust. Then they con you by offering a minimum of 3 months warranty and even let you test drive it before hand. No, much better to save a grand and get your hands on it before the dealer. Honestly, if you want to avoid a dealer then do the next best thing and buy a privately owned cherished car, they're not hard to spot in Autotrader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Thats the answer I was not looking for.... Was just hoping to cut out the Middle man... would treat it just like a private sale tho The thing is, you could say to them that it would be treated like a private sale, and no CRA comeback, but it doesn't matter, Even if you signed a declaration to that extent, the law would still apply. And the law is the CRA, SOGA, etc. So they aren't going to be interested, because for 99 people who would be honest and fair, there's one who, if they had problems, would be back on their doorstep, and claiming they were forced to sign the declaration. It's not worth their hassle. As it is, BCA / Mannheim collect the cars, tidy them up a bit, drop them through the auction, and send the money over when the cars are sold a few days later. For selling to the public, they'd have to advertise the cars, keep the website updated, have the cars available for viewing / test drives, pay people to manage all that and to arrange sales, deal with the 90% of timewasters and dreamers, arrange for payments to all be covered under KYC (money-laundering) legislation, plus getting faults fixed, etc, etc, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted August 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Just was hoping to save a few grand on it as already know the "danger" of a private sale Will keep my eye on the local auction house then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Just was hoping to save a few grand on it as already know the "danger" of a private sale Will keep my eye on the local auction house then There's saving money, and there's playing russian roulette. Auction : no buyer protection at all. All you actually know for certain is that it started and drove into the hall. Private sale : small amount of buyer protection. You can get a test drive (or have the owner drive it with you as a passenger), and listen for anything that doesn't sound right at various speeds. Retail sale from a garage : covered under CRA. Right to reject for faults within 30 days for dull refund. Right to reject for faults (if the garage cannot fix in one attempt) for 6 months, receiving most of your money back. When you add in most auction site fees for private buyers, you're better off buying retail. Minimal extra cost, massive buyer protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 And don't forget the obscene buyer's fees at most auction houses. We almost never buy from auction because there are enough other channels such as px's and trade deals between different makes/dealers but the fees are a big put off as they add several hundred to the purchase fee and on top of that you still have to pay to have them delivered and of course spare a man away from base to do the buying. A few years ago they started trying to get us to buy online and being a sucker for new ideas I played along and bought a few after asking them to "walk the car for me". They then started to have a fit when I called them back and asked to back cars which were misdescribed, so they were told in no uncertain terms they sucked. Auctions are cheap for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted August 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Lucky that I am looking at a broad range of cars and don't mind traveling for the right one... Main one on the list is a vaux insignia 2.0l diesel 2010- with sat nav... so keep your eyes out Then Ford mondeo Audi a3 and bmw 120 ..... Had a look at a few garages and the price range is so big for the same kind of spec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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