Craig83 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Hi all, I'm a semi professional fox controller. Been asked to control pigeons over a 500acre farm. Brought a pump action, truly **** so far. What could o be doing wrong, few people are saying the gun is too short, some are saying I won't be giving enough lead some are saying my cartridges are poor. Can it really make that much difference? For reference, 76 cartridges shot.....not one bird hit. P.s. I a professional rifle shooter in my real time job Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) P.s. I a professional rifle shooter in my real time job, I too use a rifle most of the time, and miss quite a lot when pigeon shooting. Are you aiming at them or swinging through. PS Edited August 19, 2016 by la bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 hello, where in wiltshire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig83 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Marlborough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig83 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 P.s. I a professional rifle shooter in my real time job, I too use a rifle most of the time, and miss quite a lot when pigeon shooting. Are you aiming at them or swinging through. PS I'm giving lead but still nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Marlborough phone up barbury clay pigeons near swindon and have a lesson also see what gun fit required, what choke in pump, i would think you not swinging through enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig83 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 phone up barbury clay pigeons near swindon and have a lesson also see what gun fit required, what choke in pump, i would think you not swinging through enough[/quote Thank you will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 I'm giving lead but still nothing If you are giving too much lead you should see the pigeon react. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 phone up barbury clay pigeons near swindon and have a lesson also see what gun fit required, what choke in pump, i would think you not swinging through enough what make of pump, never used one but looking at videos you need pull fore end so that may take you off line, try an O/U or semi auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig83 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 It's just a cheap Winchester SXP FAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 It's just a cheap Winchester SXP FAC ok it should have come with some screw in chokes ? which one have you put in ? what make and shot size cartridge using ? the stock should have shims to adjust to your gun fit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig83 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 I'm using game bore velocity plus 6 30 or something like that on the box The gun came with them but I haven't changed the choke, should I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 I'm using game bore velocity plus 6 30 or something like that on the box The gun came with them but I haven't changed the choke, should I? hello, nothing wrong with cartridge, i would check to see what screw in choke is in gun, there should be 3 according to a review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 hello, nothing wrong with cartridge, i would check to see what screw in choke is in gun, there should be 3 according to a review i would presume 3 chokes are improved/skeet/ half/ and full, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 i would presume 3 chokes are improved/skeet/ half/ and full, you might find it is the full choke in gun where by i would be in the more open choke as first 2 i mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig83 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Iv got full and something saying "imp.cyl" and one in the gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Iv got full and something saying "imp.cyl" and one in the gun ok then i think the one in gun is half choke, which is what i use in my semi, not too open not too tight pattern a good 30/35 plus yards, with your 6 shot cartridges should be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig83 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 So it's just my frankly **** shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 ok then i think the one in gun is half choke, which is what i use in my semi, not too open not too tight pattern a good 30/35 plus yards, with your 6 shot cartridges should be fine next would be to check stock fitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 My bet (forgetting lead) is that your are missing below. Forget chokes and which cartridge to use for now. Set up a cardboard target a yard square and fire a shot at it centrally. Lay odds, if like me you are hitting low. If so you need to adjust your point of aim to your point of impact. It's worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 My bet (forgetting lead) is that your are missing below. Forget chokes and which cartridge to use for now. Set up a cardboard target a yard square and fire a shot at it centrally. Lay odds, if like me you are hitting low. If so you need to adjust your point of aim to your point of impact. It's worth a try. well done good shot that was my next suggestion try a pattern plate/ 30 inch at 30 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig83 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 My bet (forgetting lead) is that your are missing below. Forget chokes and which cartridge to use for now. Set up a cardboard target a yard square and fire a shot at it centrally. Lay odds, if like me you are hitting low. If so you need to adjust your point of aim to your point of impact. It's worth a try. .at what range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) As pigeon popper said, up to 30 yards will give you a good idea.Let us know how you get on. Edited August 19, 2016 by Good shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig83 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Will do, I hope o can make a impact on my pest control issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 .at what range? hello, a 30 x 30 inch pattern plate/cardboard/ paper on backing chip board (15/25 mm) (bluetack paper) so not to splinter at a measured 30 yards, eye sight level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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