adam120uk Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Hi I'm new into reloading 410 . I'm currently using 14.4 grains of h110 powder with a cork wad into a 3in case . However my local gun shop only stocks lil gun powder . Does anyone out there use it ? If so what sort of loads are you using ? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Clay & Game will ship it to you but it adds costs of course. I also use H110 for my non toxics. Haven't used LilGun so no experience. See if you can download the Cheddite manual. I have a copy Clay & Game sent me but it only covers non toxic for Lilgun not lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam120uk Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Cheers walker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 theres loads of recipes for lil'gun in the BP advantages manual weird wads though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 If you search the web re lil gun and .410 you should find some load data, but most American forums do not like it they say it burns very hot and melts the mouth of the .410 case. I have always used 2400, A.410, h110 or SP3. All give good results and i will buy what ever the shop has available as 410 does not take a lot of powder so powder price is not so critical when deciding what to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Im no .410 reloader, but here are some 3 inch loads off the BP archived loads that use lil gun. IN THE 3.00” FIOCCHI HULL Load# 110117-2743 C HULL: FIOCCHI 410 3.00” PRIMER: FIO616 PROPELLANT: HODGDON LIL GUN 15.0 Grains WAD: STRETCH SHOT: ½ oz NP#6 (218 grains, approx. 128 pellets) BUFFER: none FOLD CRIMP: About (3) OS410 on top of shot, with #6 pellet, perhaps (2) much depends upon your particular reloading tool and the pressure you apply. Over shot card usage changes with shot size used. (Nudge down, then crimp.) Result: PSI 10600 FPS 1330 Load# 110117-2741B HULL: FIOCCHI 410 3.00” PRIMER: FIO616 PROPELLANT: HODGDON LIL GUN 17.0 Grains WAD: STRETCH SHOT: ½ oz NP#7 (218 grains, approx. 150 pellets) BUFFER: none FOLD CRIMP: About 2 OS410 on top of shot. (Changes with shot size used.) Nudge, then crimp. Result: PSI 11700 FPS 1440 Load# 110117-2744 HULL: FIOCCHI 410 3.00” PRIMER: FIO616 PROPELLANT: HODGDON LIL GUN 16.0 Grains WAD: STRETCH SHOT: 9/16 oz. (246 gr.) NP#6 BUFFER: none FOLD CRIMP: OS410 on top of shot. Nudge, then crimp. Result: PSI 11800 FPS 1345 Load# 110117-2745 HULL: FIOCCHI 410 3.00” PRIMER: FIO616 PROPELLANT: HODGDON LIL GUN 17.5 Grains WAD: STRETCH SHOT: 9/16 oz. (246 gr.) NP#6 BUFFER: none FOLD CRIMP: Result: PSI 12700 FPS 1400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam120uk Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Thanks tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam120uk Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Thanks . I've been looking about on the net . Found some data but nothing using cheddite hulls ,With a fiber wad .would using different hulls to that on the data sheet be dangerous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Thanks . I've been looking about on the net . Found some data but nothing using cheddite hulls ,With a fiber wad .would using different hulls to that on the data sheet be dangerous? I cant answer that i dont do anything with .410 but in other ga guns swaping from a fiocchi to a chedite wont make one or the other load a death trap, they are not the same but i think if you reduce the load to start with by say %5 you should be good, and run up to the data load watch for issues, i doubt you will get any Fiocchi to chedite problems if you take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 In 28ga the fiocchi case volume is greater than cheddite , if so with .410 then you may have to reduce the shot load by a few pellets to get a good crimp if you change from fiocchi to cheddite. Good advice to reduce the load by 5% to start with as the humble little .410 works at much higher pressure than the rest. I would still keep away from lil gun if at all possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
222mark Posted September 14, 2016 Report Share Posted September 14, 2016 sp3 is the best, 16grain for just about every load in 410. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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