6.5x55SE Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Has anyone got any 12ga and 20ga load data for this powder please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 I only have data for NSI S4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted August 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I only have data for NSI S4 Would you be so kind as to pm or email me it Please as i believe the powder i have is the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Any help http://www.nobelsport.it/public/pages/ENG/schedapol.asp?ProdottoID=563&FamigliaID=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted August 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Any help http://www.nobelsport.it/public/pages/ENG/schedapol.asp?ProdottoID=563&FamigliaID=0 Thank you i will check it matches the 4 loads i have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Would you be so kind as to pm or email me it Please as i believe the powder i have is the same I got proofed loads so, can post them no problems; only thing is that these have been loaded with NSI S4 black dot on batches from 2013-2016; the powder is very stable but I would still pattern them to see how they perform on your gun and then adjust accordingly S4 batch 23/02/2016 12/70/T1 - Cx2000 1.45 x 32 SG25 - Star crimp @ 58mm - PMax: 512 bar V1: 400 m/s 12/70/T1 - Cx2000 1.55 x 32 SG25 - Star crimp @ 58mm - PMax: 572 bar V1:419 m/s 12/70 NSI 688 1.40x28 GT27 star crimp at 58mm exactly PMax: 420 bar, V1: 395 (this will work better with 1,45 and an SG27 as will give you 470 bar and 405 m/s) I also have a 34-35 g in 12 bore if you need it For the 20 bore, i don't have any data as i reload the same shells since 1997: 20/67 Fiocchi 615 1,10-1,15 (warm-cold temperatue)x 25g, SG25 star crimp @ 57.8 mm Pmax 620 bar V1 408 m/s 20/70 CX1000 1,15 x 26 SG25 star crimp @ 60 mm PMax 780 bar V1 410 m/s cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted August 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I got proofed loads so, can post them no problems; only thing is that these have been loaded with NSI S4 black dot on batches from 2013-2016; the powder is very stable but I would still pattern them to see how they perform on your gun and then adjust accordingly S4 batch 23/02/2016 12/70/T1 - Cx2000 1.45 x 32 SG25 - Star crimp @ 58mm - PMax: 512 bar V1: 400 m/s 12/70/T1 - Cx2000 1.55 x 32 SG25 - Star crimp @ 58mm - PMax: 572 bar V1:419 m/s 12/70 NSI 688 1.40x28 GT27 star crimp at 58mm exactly PMax: 420 bar, V1: 395 (this will work better with 1,45 and an SG27 as will give you 470 bar and 405 m/s) I also have a 34-35 g in 12 bore if you need it For the 20 bore, i don't have any data as i reload the same shells since 1997: 20/67 Fiocchi 615 1,10-1,15 (warm-cold temperatue)x 25g, SG25 star crimp @ 57.8 mm Pmax 620 bar V1 408 m/s 20/70 CX1000 1,15 x 26 SG25 star crimp @ 60 mm PMax 780 bar V1 410 m/s cheers, Thank you very much 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 More data here if you scroll down .... http://www.gualandi.it/docs/tabpolv_2013_eng.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted August 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 More data here if you scroll down .... http://www.gualandi.it/docs/tabpolv_2013_eng.pdf Thank you Kind Sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted August 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 This is the powder S4 the load i have say's for new S4 powder 12ga 1-1/8oz lead shot 18.5 grains powder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Certainly does not look like Nobel sports S4n which is doubled based and laminated flakes, part of the Tecna and sipe group of powders. Your photos look like a granular powder like GM3, Prima SV group. What's the providence of the powder? Is the correct powder in the correct tub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted August 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Certainly does not look like Nobel sports S4n which is doubled based and laminated flakes, part of the Tecna and sipe group of powders. Your photos look like a granular powder like GM3, Prima SV group. What's the providence of the powder? Is the correct powder in the correct tub? They small bit of load data is at the bottom of load data for GM3 new powder marked with a black dot. My father gave me the powder but has mislaid the full load data ( he is 80 yr old ) but i believe you are on the right track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Unless you can 100% identify the powder then only you can decide what do with it ie. Trash it or carefully work a load up, or pay the proof house to test some cartridges prior to you firing them. Guess it depends on how much of it you have and what you are happy to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted August 10, 2017 Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I thought it weird it was S4 as i never found it in UK... The problem with GM3 is that it has changed dramatically throughout the years: batches prior to 2000 could load up to 34 g with 32 being the optimum load; up to 2010 it became a clay powder loading up to 28 g and struggling to go up to 30' recently had been slowed down and reaches up to 32 g max. 12/70 Fiocchi 615, 1,55 x 32 Gualandi 19 or 21 (can't recall now) closed at 58mm exactly was a staple from north to south of Italy New batchesperformed better with 1,40 - 1,45 x 28 SG25 or Bior closed at 57.8-58 mm although i heard (but not tested) that recent batches have provided good results with: 12/70 Fiocchi 615 1,50 x 31g. Gualandi21 (which is similar to the original 1,55 x 32) in 20 bore i think you better not push it anymore than 20/70 Fiocchi 615 1,15 x 25 SG25 #5 star crimp at 60mm (not less) cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted August 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2017 I thought it weird it was S4 as i never found it in UK... I really appreciate everyone's input and help ? Spoke again to my Father definitely S4 powder still can't find his full load data apart from what I've posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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