Ultrastu Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 You can see it against the sky (though tricky into the sun ). Variable brightness . Just swing the ring infront of the bird and fire. Its simple . And easier than worrying about correct cheek weld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Fair enough, but I still don’t get how you’re concentrating on the target if you’re looking for that red dot. It seems to me like the deliberate act of aiming a rifle rather than simply pointing a shotgun like you would point your finger. If it works for you then fine, but if that’s how you do it I can’t help but think you’re missing out on the art of shotgunning, as in the shotgun simply being an extension of your finger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Good thing is on that gun and with the choke the ring is basically the size of the shot pattern all the way out to 40 yds. Which is useful info . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 13 hours ago, Ultrastu said: You can see it against the sky (though tricky into the sun ). Variable brightness . Just swing the ring infront of the bird and fire. Its simple . And easier than worrying about correct cheek weld Driverless cars! What next? Shooterless guns! 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 Military have had those for years. People put scopes on rifles to improve long range accuracy . Night vision .range finders .thermal . Etc etc .i dont think putting a red dot on a shotty is the dawn of the end of shooting 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 34 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: Military have had those for years. People put scopes on rifles to improve long range accuracy . Night vision .range finders .thermal . Etc etc .i dont think putting a red dot on a shotty is the dawn of the end of shooting 🤣 I agree, but by making things too easy, it becomes less of a challenge, and gets boring! 😒 Surely shooting for sport is about developing skill? If technology made it so I hit everything I shot at......I personally would pack it in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 But could it be argued that if you knew, Your kill rate was say 50 % at best and you wound your quarry with a couple of pellets that your not doing all you can to prevent suffering ? And by making it more "sporting " you open your self up to criticism? Just playing devils advocate . A rifle shooter taking long range shots with open sights in the vage hope of hitting (let alone killing ) would be thought of as cruel ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Ultrastu said: Military have had those for years. People put scopes on rifles to improve long range accuracy . Night vision .range finders .thermal . Etc etc .i dont think putting a red dot on a shotty is the dawn of the end of shooting 🤣 Neither do I, but the uses you've mentioned above are against static, or more accurately perhaps, none flying objects, and negates the necessity ( with a red dot ) to even mount the shotgun. I don't perceive it as cheating, just something that I know would get in the way for me personally. If the system were the ends to a means regards wing shooting, that you seem to suggest it is; namely ensuring correct mount whereas no mount is even necessary, then I think it would be in more common usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: But could it be argued that if you knew, Your kill rate was say 50 % at best and you wound your quarry with a couple of pellets that your not doing all you can to prevent suffering ? And by making it more "sporting " you open your self up to criticism? Just playing devils advocate . A rifle shooter taking long range shots with open sights in the vage hope of hitting (let alone killing ) would be thought of as cruel ! But if we achieve perfection via technology......we take the human element out of it!.....Another step down the road to human obsolescence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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