Teal Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 I've just made an application for an hmr, and am very excited. Was shooting one recently and was just vaporising tangerines out to 120 yards. I've been doing a lot of reading on here and from a booklet I've got "the ultimate guide to hunting scopes". I've also been bothering several people with PMs asking for information on the scopes they've got. I have friends in America who are coming over soon and therefore could get a Zeiss conquest 3-9x50 for about £260 with the mildot reticule. I was really just wondering if anyone would have any information or advice on this particular scope or any other ones I should be looking at. It's obviously a big amount of money to be spending on a scope, but light gathering will be important for shooting foxes at dusk which are lampshy. I hope to also be shooting a lot of rabbits during the day and with the lamp at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 i would think anything with a zeiss label would be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Teal, A ziess scope is a superb bit of kit mate, but i think you should be going for a higher zoom, a 3-9x50mm is ok but with the range a HMR gives you, i personally think that a 4-16 x 50mm or even higher would be a lot better and gives you a clearer sight picture beyond 100Yds.(a HMR can put bullet on bullet at that range) But With glass of that quility, it will always be better at dusk and dawn than any of the sub £250 scopes you can buy over here. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Teal,A ziess scope is a superb bit of kit mate, but i think you should be going for a higher zoom, a 3-9x50mm is ok but with the range a HMR gives you, i personally think that a 4-16 x 50mm or even higher would be a lot better and gives you a clearer sight picture beyond 100Yds.(a HMR can put bullet on bullet at that range) But With glass of that quility, it will always be better at dusk and dawn than any of the sub £250 scopes you can buy over here. Paul Bullet on bullet at 100 yards - I don't think so. A very good hmr will group 0.5" at 100 yards, and that in still conditions. It was always said that the cost of the scope should be at least the cost of the gun to get the best results, and Zeiss are superb. 10 mag should be fine. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Bullet on bullet at 100 yards - I don't think so. A very good hmr will group 0.5" at 100 yards, and that in still conditions. It was always said that the cost of the scope should be at least the cost of the gun to get the best results, and Zeiss are superb. 10 mag should be fine. Don I cant do it Don, but i have a mate who can with his annie and if you would like a demo i'm quite sure he would show you mate. i dont think 10 mag is any good for 200yrd bunnies though and any HMR is capable of shooting em that far, ask magman we were shooting em out that far and futher last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Bullet on bullet at 100 yards - I don't think so. A very good hmr will group 0.5" at 100 yards, and that in still conditions. It was always said that the cost of the scope should be at least the cost of the gun to get the best results, and Zeiss are superb. 10 mag should be fine. Don I cant do it Don, but i have a mate who can with his annie and if you would like a demo i'm quite sure he would show you mate. i dont think 10 mag is any good for 200yrd bunnies though and any HMR is capable of shooting em that far, ask magman we were shooting em out that far and futher last night. Perhaps there is some misunderstanding here. I only head shoot bunnies, and doing this with an hmr is stretching it beyond 150 yards if you want to do it every time. If any sort of wind is blowing then forget it. This is why I use a 10 mag Swaro, and it's great. I suppose this is why I normally put a limit on head shots up to 130 yards or so. If its a rabbit control job (i.e. you want them dead with a body shot, and dead every time) then I suppose it may be possible up to 200 yards but I've never tried it. One of these days we'll have to have a PW get-together on a range with hmr's and then it'll be great to compare different makes of gun. No doubt there will be some red faces - mine included. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Perhaps there is some misunderstanding here. I only head shoot bunnies, and doing this with an hmr is stretching it beyond 150 yards if you want to do it every time. If any sort of wind is blowing then forget it. This is why I use a 10 mag Swaro, and it's great. I suppose this is why I normally put a limit on head shots up to 130 yards or so. If its a rabbit control job (i.e. you want them dead with a body shot, and dead every time) then I suppose it may be possible up to 200 yards but I've never tried it. One of these days we'll have to have a PW get-together on a range with hmr's and then it'll be great to compare different makes of gun. No doubt there will be some red faces - mine included. Don Sorry to steal the thread teal, i was only trying to help. Don, do you fancy a trip down to Minsterly Ranges - I'll ask Magman ( i'm quite sure he'd be up for a laugh) and you could maybe get Gonna shoot a Wabbit to come. maybe Oly and some of the Shropshire/Cheshire boys would fancy a meet too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 I got a 3.5-10x50 for a friend of mine when I was out in the States a few weeks back. I cant remember how much it was it must have been around the £300 mark. He is yet to get out on the range with it but from looking at it the scope is a cracker nice fine reticle. I cant see him having any problems with it they are made in the states. I guess it is a similar deal to the Schmidts that are built in Hungry. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Perhaps there is some misunderstanding here. I only head shoot bunnies, and doing this with an hmr is stretching it beyond 150 yards if you want to do it every time. If any sort of wind is blowing then forget it. This is why I use a 10 mag Swaro, and it's great. I suppose this is why I normally put a limit on head shots up to 130 yards or so. If its a rabbit control job (i.e. you want them dead with a body shot, and dead every time) then I suppose it may be possible up to 200 yards but I've never tried it. One of these days we'll have to have a PW get-together on a range with hmr's and then it'll be great to compare different makes of gun. No doubt there will be some red faces - mine included. Don Sorry to steal the thread teal, i was only trying to help. Don, do you fancy a trip down to Minsterly Ranges - I'll ask Magman ( i'm quite sure he'd be up for a laugh) and you could maybe get Gonna shoot a Wabbit to come. maybe Oly and some of the Shropshire/Cheshire boys would fancy a meet too!! Sounds all right to me if we can get some volunteers. Never shot at Minsterley but bought a T* for my 0.223 there. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 maybe start a different thread and it will fall into plan Minsterly Ranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted August 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Thanks for the replies everyone, sounds like the scopes a good 'un! Will be shooting friends HMR again on thursday, and so will look into the magnification issue Tulky raised, it does make sense getting the maximum out of this gun. It ain't half accurate, the tangerines we were shooting were propped on pencils, and after shooting all the tangerines I thought I'd have a crack at one of the pencils, with one shot left in the mag the pencil was about 60 yards. Nevermind must have missed, went up to gather the dead and pencil had a hole straight through the middle of it. I'm looking into getting it mounted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Teal, I have a Simmons WTC 6.5-20x50 on my HMR. I do use the extra magnifacation when taking on long rabbits and when the light is going. Having said that it's my first scoped rifle but I am happy with it and it only cost £50 from the states. This was me yesterday zeroing at 100yards with Federal V Shock's. I was quite pleased with this as it was quite windy. (EDIT) picture has gone.....It was a 5 shot group the size of a 20p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 I'd say the same thing I like the higher mag on mine and regularly have it up to 16x for longer shots. Try a high powered scope before you commit though having said that you'll always get the money back on the scope if you're importing it. At 60 yards you can shoot ants if they're on the paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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