new to the flock Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Does anyone have theses two videos/ dvd's? NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted August 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Come now we must have some herding folks on here NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadSpringer Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hi Mate, If you have no luck have a look here Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosa Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Thought someone would have found them by now for you Dan, here you go just paste this into your toolbar http://www.dogwise.com/ItemDetails.cfm?ID=DHE143 ps Jess is coming on fine cheers shaun-- if you struggle type into google That'll Do video and youll get it there under dogwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted August 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Thanks Mosa and MadSpringer Still wondering if anyone has seen them and what they thought of them. As after exchange and shipping they would be $67.00 dollars apiece and that is if I dont get caught on import. :blink: NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Dan, Have a look here, Glyn jones Might save you a bit. Cheers Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted August 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Thanks Martin, However it keeps telling me it can not ship the item to my address NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff B Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 NTTF, I have the H. Glyn Jones videos, there are three in all although the third, called "Take Time", is probably not worth the money to get it to you. Like gundog training there are many different ways and views on how it should be done, this is just one man's method. I had some success with his methods but I personally preferred the video by Derek Scrimgeour, "A Hill Shepherd Trains his Border Collies", an altogether calmer way of doing things, although the different ways may be a reflection on the different types of breeding. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the Glyn Jones videos and still watch them from time to time. There is also a video by Aled Jones, a very well known and successful trainer and trialer. I don't have this but I will be sending for it in the near future. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted September 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Jeff, Thanks for the run down. i have a young bitch that I have just started to work to sheep with the aid of a very skilled shepherdess with many dogs to her credit. She is a very soft bitch and is coming on fine. As with all training it is nice to see what others are doing, which is why I was looking at these dvd's. Also as you have mentioned the different methods are used for differantly bred dogs. A dog with lots of hard drive ...a heavy dog....compared to a softer dog with not as much drive....a light dog....are going to be trained differant. At some point when they both learn how to balance the sheep some of the exercises may and should become similar. This is my first boarder collie for herding,and I want to do her justice. She will be a working dog, not a trial dog and will be to help me, with next years ewes and lambs. Thanks Again, NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff B Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Dan, I have sent you an email re the videos. This is my first boarder collie for herding,and I want to do her justice. My best bit of advise, bearing in mind I am no sheepdog training expert by any means, is to get an instant 'lie down' command and the recall 'that'll do' command working 100%. With just these two commands and the dog's natural instincts you will be able to get your dog balancing the sheep to you. With this working well it gives you the best opportunity to train her flanking commands, 'come bye' (clockwise) and 'away' (anticlockwise) by moving one way then the other. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted September 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Thanks Jeff, her "lie down" is spot on as is her "that'll do" and her "walk up" commands. Like I have said she is a very soft bitch and may well prove too soft for some tough old ewes. I am looking forward to seeing just how well her commands hold as she gains in confidance and strength. I have only had her in with the sheep 3 times and she is showing improvement each time. To the point that she is now moving the sheep forward along the fence line. She will lay down to two pips on the whistle so between us we can move the sheep forward and then have her laydown to let them stop . She is also able to turn them into the fence and work them in the opposite direction. I am using another well experienced "strong" dog out to the side to keep the sheep from doing there own thing thus allowing her to succeed at each step. So far she is "staying off" the sheep nicely but I am a little concerned that she may "crowd" on her flankings when we get to that point. Time will tell. I have no sheep of my own this year, another byproduct of being sick last fall, but will have a few lambs and goat kids again this spring. Even though she is a soft bitch I am sure she is going to work fine for the lite work I will need her for. Thanks for you help in this matter. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conor Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 my dad has the 3 of them, i have watched them a few times, he makes it look easy! he thinks very highly of the dvds. good luck on findin them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted October 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 my dad has the 3 of them, i have watched them a few times, he makes it look easy! he thinks very highly of the dvds. good luck on findin them Conor, any chance your Dad would let me borrow them ? NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 If you get hold of them Dan I will ship them out with the dog powder under the usual mantle :unsure: LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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