oneshotkiller Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 is it worth going fac or can i cope without it also is it hard to qualify for ? in his book pete wadeson said even non-fac rifles are capble of clean kills at 70 yards so why bother going fac ! i'm soooooooo confused !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Sounds like you need a little more experience first, I might have that wrong though. Tell us a little more about your experience and shooting history and a few of the old hands can help out. Whilst it might be true that in the right hands a legal limit air rifle might have the energy to kill at 70 yds, I'd like to see it done. How old are you, what are you shooting, what kind of land is it (hilly, flat, public, etc)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 go fac i would nt have took a shot over 35 metres with my s400 non fac.i have killed at 90 with my s400xtra and 80 is my best with the hw100. flatter trajectory coupled with a lot more thump makes for great shootin.get your fac and you should be able to buy a fac gun over there cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshotkiller Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 i started shooting i reckon bout 3 months ago starting with a hw 77 k then i bought a s 16 un shrouded for 200 hundred quid and use that 90% of the time . i,ve got 3 permissions one is a sports field with no cover and its been lamped so scuts are jittery and as you can imgine also zero cover and nect to road also shoot over 3 hilly fields where cows are kept with woodland running through it . and also a unusal one a farm with a 2 mile long path covered in dense woods and stuff hope that helps guys . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Regardless of your age or experience there is nothing stopping you applying for an FAC as long as you meet the basic criteria (age, reason and land) I assume you mean for a more powerful air rifle? Don't listen to what most people think, it makes a massive difference but it doesn't turn it into the ultimate hunting machine that some think. Based entirely on observations and experience over the last year I would say the FAC air most regularly gets shouldered against quarry at about 45-55 yds. Depending on the rifle, pellet and skill of the user it could probably kill at over 100 but it simply doesn't work like that. It still isn't that flat shooting, range estimation is everything. The rifle can do it, but can you? If you need to be killing scuts past 70yds regular you want something else. Possibly a .22 rim depending on the terrain, perhaps a .17HMR. Depends. FAC air rifles are not as quiet as a legal PCP, much quieter are .22 rimmy's with subs and a good mod. Depends on what you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshotkiller Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 well thats a great help mate thanks think i will give applying for my fac some serious thought am i more likely to get one for a air rifle though i only ask cause if i clear this sportsfield ( or rather cut it down) i<ve been promised more land to shoot and air rifles one of the only ways to clear it rimmys too dangerous according to the parish council cause of the main rd next to io plus cycle paths an such any ideas how to clear it i thought lamping but scuts are very shy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Get some slinky stinkies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshotkiller Posted September 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Get some slinky stinkies whats a slinky stinky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 A ferret mate :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshotkiller Posted September 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 how stupid do i feel now :unsure: wouldn know where to start with em to be honest ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Personally I think you will be better off aplying for a FAC Air rifle going on how you have described the council land you shoot and how long you have been shooting :unsure: . FAC air rifles are safer than ,22lr imo. .22lr are quite bad for ricochey. But dont get me wrong .22lr are a good and effective tool for controlling rabbits but there are places I would not use my .22lr where I would use FAC Air rifle. If I was you I would Apply for your FAC air rifle now. get some experiance under your belt. then if you feel the need for a .22lr apply for thay later. you will still use the FAC Air Rifle even if you get a .22lr. All the best Keep us posted Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnybasher07 Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 FAC ha for rabbits airrifles are perfectly good you just need to get closer i shot a rabbit the other week with a bsa scorpion at 66yrds (just below the ear lobe but there was no wind makes a real difference) enyway true FAC are allot better at longer ranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 FAC air rifles are not as quiet as a legal PCP hmmn that another "fact" is it? cheers KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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