12gauge82 Posted February 29, 2024 Report Share Posted February 29, 2024 23 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: The required change will come when your Reform can get over 50% of the vote anywhere. Its not my reform? I would suggest if reform do well at this election, it will force the Tories to drastically change the party to win back support. either way, obviously there's more chance of change voting for reform, than voting for the same two parties, that would be voting for no change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted February 29, 2024 Report Share Posted February 29, 2024 For any new party, there has to be a tipping point. Reform is building up to that. It will be challenging to get enough votes this election to get MP's, having effectively started as a party 3 years ago, but they have gone through 4 by elections, moving from 5% to 13% and Rochdale result isn't in yet. This is more than the Greens and comparable to the Lib Dems. Reform may get none or a few candidates but the larger the vote, the more people will look to them as a viable alternative as they recognise others have similar views and they are not alone. Conversely, the Conservatives are approaching the tipping point from the other direction and like the Whigs before them are collapsing mainly for being as untrustworthy and bad as Labour, without actually being Labour. 5 years of Labour will either reinvigorate the voters to vote again for Conservatives or will turbo charge Reform into parliament and a three horse race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 1, 2024 Report Share Posted March 1, 2024 12 hours ago, Stonepark said: For any new party, there has to be a tipping point. Reform is building up to that. It will be challenging to get enough votes this election to get MP's, having effectively started as a party 3 years ago, but they have gone through 4 by elections, moving from 5% to 13% and Rochdale result isn't in yet. This is more than the Greens and comparable to the Lib Dems. Reform may get none or a few candidates but the larger the vote, the more people will look to them as a viable alternative as they recognise others have similar views and they are not alone. Conversely, the Conservatives are approaching the tipping point from the other direction and like the Whigs before them are collapsing mainly for being as untrustworthy and bad as Labour, without actually being Labour. 5 years of Labour will either reinvigorate the voters to vote again for Conservatives or will turbo charge Reform into parliament and a three horse race. Good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted March 1, 2024 Report Share Posted March 1, 2024 Reform are now on 14% compared to the Tories 20% in latest polling. Interesting election ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz45 Posted March 1, 2024 Report Share Posted March 1, 2024 On 23/02/2024 at 19:58, manthing said: About 6.5% of the english/welsh population is Muslim. How you reverse those numbers so "White Christian type English" become the small minority in 16 years would be an interesting proposition. It certainly would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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