justjoshing Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Hi, I am a 17 year old A level student.I have done clay shooting in the past i decided to try it again.I still enjoy it so i thought about getting my own shotgun, i just dont belong to a club or anything and i dont live in the country side either. Is there even a point in applying or will i be wasting my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myuserid Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 You should get one, apply anyway, if you are refused (which I doubt) you will be refunded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayward Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Hi,I am a 17 year old A level student.I have done clay shooting in the past i decided to try it again.I still enjoy it so i thought about getting my own shotgun, i just dont belong to a club or anything and i dont live in the country side either. Is there even a point in applying or will i be wasting my time. theres many threads on this very subject , with out more info its difficult to say , do you live at uni have you been in trouble with the law , have you had any lessons , you say you have shot in the past good but the police like to see a responsible attitude so my advice is get some lessons and get reading up the the CPSA Clay Pigeon Shooting Association - CPSA - Website Has some very good info as do the BASC - British Association for Shooting and Conservation link i would say join one ... fill you profile out also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justjoshing Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I am going vlsy shooting at the weekend and im going to join the BASC.Do you need a shotgun cabinet for the home inspection?. Do you think i have reasonable chance of getting my licence.I have the application form ready as i printed it out, do you need to send a check for 50 pound with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 justjoshing As has been said, do a search on PW, and visit the web sites stated. Once you have done this you will be able to draw your own conclusion as to your chance of sucsess. How can any of us pass any comment as to your chances as none of us know you. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_colt Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Age, Student status and location should have no bearing on a Shotgun certificate application. You already meet the age requirement for purchasing and owning a shotgun and carts. There is no need for a formal membership to a clay shooting ground. Merely having the intent to shoot at one is sufficient. Obviously it looks good in your FEO interview if you have had a couple of sessions there already when he comes round. Joining a shooting association like the BASC is also a good step as they are very helpful in firearms matters and; give you decent shooting insurance as part of the membership. You should apply as soon as possible; it can take several months to process these days. Either get a firearms form 103 from your local police station or goto: http://www.basc.org.uk/media/form_103.pdf . It's all fairly straight forward to fill in; http://www.basc.org.uk/media/scot_app_renew_shotguns.pdf will guide you through it. (The guide applies to England and Wales as well.) Also ring up your police force and ask for firearms licensing. Get the address to send the application to. Send it by recorded delivery!!! That should get you started, just reply if you need anymore help. Best Regards, mr_colt. P.S: I wouldnt buy a cabinet just yet. post for advice near the time and I am sure someone here can give you advice on secure fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I am going vlsy shooting at the weekend and im going to join the BASC.Do you need a shotgun cabinet for the home inspection?. Do you think i have a reasanoble chance of getting my licence. I dont know about the cabinet being fixed before your licence but you have to describe on the application form where the shotguns will be held. And if you have an interest in shooting I dont see the problem in you getting a shotgun licence. Just join BASC they give you information and help with SGC and you get insurance. Just dont call it a ticket to the FAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justjoshing Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Thanks guys.I will fill out my form and send it to my nearest police station.Im going to go clay shooting next saturday, also my dad is a chief inspector in the police, will he be able to say he has known me for 2 years and everything, even though he his my dad. Thanks for all your help. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 justjoshing Dont be so hasty. 1. Members of your family can not act as countersignatories 2. Serving police officers can not act as countersignatories either. May I suggest a teacher from school? webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Thanks guys.I will fill out my form and send it to my nearest police station.Im going to go clay shooting next saturday, also my dad is a chief inspector in the police, will he be able to say he has known me for 2 years and everything, even though he his my dad. Thanks for all your help. Regards Your Dad will not be able to act as a reference if he is a serving Police Officer......its lists likely candidates on the SGC info listed on the various FAT websites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 No your father can not counter sign your application. It should say on the form who is the best person to counter sign it for you. I would suggest someone that has known you for at least 5 years in an official capacity, like a doctor or a friend of the family that has known you for the same time, that holds a responsible position in the community. I have counter signed a few in the past on the strength that I own my own business and employ a certain amount of staff. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Sorry to sound harsh, if you have the form then you should read it carefully. It lists all the requirements on the back you will need. Better to be safe than sorry. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I know you want some advice from us but you need to read the instructions yourself, then if you are not sure on something then you can ask us for some advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 When I applied for mine I failed to mention an old 3 pointer speeding fine I still had listed on my licence which was well out of date.....got a ####ing from the Firearm enq Oficer when he came around because I didn't mention it on my form(very nice man though).....Outlaw is right....read everything carefully so you make the right impression.....and therefore don't hold the application up.....it can as stated take months even if things run smoothly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 When I applied for mine I failed to mention an old 3 pointer speeding fine I still had listed on my licence which was well out of date.....got a ####ing from the Firearm enq Oficer when he came around(very nice man though).....Outlaw is right....read everything carefully so you make the right impression.....and therefore don't hold the application up.....it can as stated take months even if things run smoothly A couple of years ago I did something really stupid, my mate was driving his car and as it was my last day with my mates before moving up to Scotland I decided to fool around, so I climbed on top of his car and I was hanging of his sunroof while driving around a roundabout anyway low and behold their was a policecar on the otherside of the roundabout it stopped us and they gave my mate 3 points and a £60 fine. But the thing that got me was that they got out a book which said disorderly conduct or something like that and £60 fine on the front, so they took my details like name and address and I was waiting for a letter to come through, but I got no letter and no fine. I think it was just a warning but the policeman never said it was a warning So this is my question: Would that of been put on my record? Is their a place where you can check your criminal history? cause I am not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 You could ask "justjoshing's" Dad he may oblige for a small fee Only joking Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justjoshing Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 What are you holding in your hand outlaw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 What are you holding in your hand outlaw? his beaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 When I applied for mine I failed to mention an old 3 pointer speeding fine I still had listed on my licence which was well out of date.....got a ####ing from the Firearm enq Oficer when he came around(very nice man though).....Outlaw is right....read everything carefully so you make the right impression.....and therefore don't hold the application up.....it can as stated take months even if things run smoothly A couple of years ago I did something really stupid, my mate was driving his car and as it was my last day with my mates before moving up to Scotland I decided to fool around, so I climbed on top of his car and I was hanging of his sunroof while driving around a roundabout anyway low and behold their was a policecar on the otherside of the roundabout it stopped us and they gave my mate 3 points and a £60 fine. But the thing that got me was that they got out a book which said disorderly conduct or something like that and £60 fine on the front, so they took my details like name and address and I was waiting for a letter to come through, but I got no letter and no fine. I think it was just a warning but the policeman never said it was a warning So this is my question: Would that of been put on my record? Is their a place where you can check your criminal history? cause I am not sure Sounds like he was in the process of giving you a secton 5 Disorder ticket.....although he should have given you a piece of paper to send the fine etc off......so It sounds as if you got off that one mate. You can if you like send off to yuor local force for a copy of your PNC record.....not sure what it costs nowadays but may be worth it for piece of mind. To have an entry placed o youtr pnc you need to have been convicted or at least admitted responsibility via a fixed penalty notice or a formal adult caution....and you have done none of those. I am assuming you were 18 at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justjoshing Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 What the hell is that in outlaws hand.It looks rude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 When I applied for mine I failed to mention an old 3 pointer speeding fine I still had listed on my licence which was well out of date.....got a ####ing from the Firearm enq Oficer when he came around(very nice man though).....Outlaw is right....read everything carefully so you make the right impression.....and therefore don't hold the application up.....it can as stated take months even if things run smoothly A couple of years ago I did something really stupid, my mate was driving his car and as it was my last day with my mates before moving up to Scotland I decided to fool around, so I climbed on top of his car and I was hanging of his sunroof while driving around a roundabout anyway low and behold their was a policecar on the otherside of the roundabout it stopped us and they gave my mate 3 points and a £60 fine. But the thing that got me was that they got out a book which said disorderly conduct or something like that and £60 fine on the front, so they took my details like name and address and I was waiting for a letter to come through, but I got no letter and no fine. I think it was just a warning but the policeman never said it was a warning So this is my question: Would that of been put on my record? Is their a place where you can check your criminal history? cause I am not sure Sounds like he was in the process of giving you a secton 5 Disorder ticket.....although he should have given you a piece of paper to send the fine etc off......so It sounds as if you got off that one mate. You can if you like send off to yuor local force for a copy of your PNC record.....not sure what it costs nowadays but may be worth it for piece of mind. To have an entry placed o youtr pnc you need to have been convicted or at least admitted responsibility via a fixed penalty notice or a formal adult caution....and you have done none of those. I am assuming you were 18 at the time. I think I was 19 maybe 20 year old at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Its a naked Mole, but with the comment I made about your Dad I'm suprised you didnt say I was doing something rude. Not like I didnt deserve it. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justjoshing Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 You did not say anything offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Ok just incase you thought it was. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 When I applied for mine I failed to mention an old 3 pointer speeding fine I still had listed on my licence which was well out of date.....got a ####ing from the Firearm enq Oficer when he came around(very nice man though).....Outlaw is right....read everything carefully so you make the right impression.....and therefore don't hold the application up.....it can as stated take months even if things run smoothly A couple of years ago I did something really stupid, my mate was driving his car and as it was my last day with my mates before moving up to Scotland I decided to fool around, so I climbed on top of his car and I was hanging of his sunroof while driving around a roundabout anyway low and behold their was a policecar on the otherside of the roundabout it stopped us and they gave my mate 3 points and a £60 fine. But the thing that got me was that they got out a book which said disorderly conduct or something like that and £60 fine on the front, so they took my details like name and address and I was waiting for a letter to come through, but I got no letter and no fine. I think it was just a warning but the policeman never said it was a warning So this is my question: Would that of been put on my record? Is their a place where you can check your criminal history? cause I am not sure Sounds like he was in the process of giving you a secton 5 Disorder ticket.....although he should have given you a piece of paper to send the fine etc off......so It sounds as if you got off that one mate. You can if you like send off to yuor local force for a copy of your PNC record.....not sure what it costs nowadays but may be worth it for piece of mind. To have an entry placed o youtr pnc you need to have been convicted or at least admitted responsibility via a fixed penalty notice or a formal adult caution....and you have done none of those. I am assuming you were 18 at the time. I think I was 19 maybe 20 year old at the time Copper probably just decided not to bother......a lot of incidents like that fall down to your attitude....if you didn't give him any lip then he prob didn't enter any paperwork......sounds like you would do well as a stuntman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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