tulkyuk Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Hi, I have just bought a brand new Tikka T3 Hunter .223 with a 1:12 twist ( i think - barrel not stamped with twist rate) - i have tried three different factory ammo bullets ( reloading gear coming next year hpefully), 50grn remington accutip, 50grn american eagle, and 55grn privies ( i know - but were just used to wear the barrell in), i cannot get it to group at all. would a lighter grn bullet be better in a 1:12 twist or heavier any help from you boys/girls would be most helpful When i say not grouping i mean :- ameriacan eagle grouped at about 2- 3 inch at 100yrds and the remington wouldn't touch the paper - even at 50yrds the group was about 6 inch or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Something not right here buddy . Could be the scope at fault or it could be the mounts .I do know that achieving a 6" group at 50yds then something is really wrong . Use to get a 3" group @100yds using federal power shok until I switched to ballistic tip ammo but you might have a friday 5 o clock rifle there which is something else to consider .Anything touching the barrel can make a huge difference also .Have you fitted a sound moderator....If so what's the crown of the barrel now like because if i'ts flat and not uniform this can be a cause of shotgun type groups 50 /55grn is on the nail in my tikka 595 (1 in 12 ) but i'm under the impression that all .223 cal tikka's T3's are 1-8 which suit the heavier projectile .Having said that you should be getting far better results with lighter ammo anyway . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted December 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 I have just checked every thing is tight ( even had the action out and back in again) - the scope is fine ( came off my sako 243 with the optilock rings still attached). had it screwcut but the crown is fine, guy who did it is a top notch bloke and has done a good few rifles for me and various mate, etc ( he is used by a few gunshops too). Now that every thing is tight etc, i will try it again tommorow and see whats happening - if it does not shoot then, its going back to the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Now that every thing is tight etc, i will try it again tommorow and see whats happening - if it does not shoot then, its going back to the shop. Best of luck ............When I put a T8 on mine I had to remove alot of material from the barrel channel to ensure freefloating but even with things touching the performance should still be better than the examples you've given . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 had it screwcut but the crown is fine bang goes any guarantee then. let rob have a go, that should sort it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted December 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 let rob have a go, that should sort it. I know its got a pipe on it, but do you think a plumber would be any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 but i'm under the impression that all .223 cal tikka's T3's are 1-8 which suit the heavier projectile .Having said that you should be getting far better results with lighter ammo anyway . Used to be Ive, they've started making them in 1-12 now as well as 1-8, details here. Tulky, if you've voided the warranty, then get a good gunsmith to have a look at it, even if it's just for an opinion. I'd a friday afternoon special Tikka, best thing I ever did was to be rid of it. I hope you're not in the same boat mate I really do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 what mod please, is it a new one, are you sure the crown and cut are good. have you tried it without the mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted December 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Mod is a brand new T8 Crown and screwcut look very good ( as i said - i have had this bloke do em before ) Not tried it yet - going to tommorow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 let rob have a go, that should sort it. I know its got a pipe on it, but do you think a plumber would be any good? no mate you need dead eye ive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 let rob have a go, that should sort it. I know its got a pipe on it, but do you think a plumber would be any good? no mate you need dead eye ive. I ain't that good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 let rob have a go, that should sort it. I know its got a pipe on it, but do you think a plumber would be any good? Could get it to shoot round corners if you like :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted December 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Could get it to shoot round corners if you like Its doing that on its own mate - i'll try it later without the mod and some of your special loads :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 I'm guessing that the barrel is supposed to be fully floated on that model? If so, have you checked to see that it doesn't have a pressure point? As it does sound like it may have. Sorry to hear your having problems mate, it's a pain in the **** when you've just shelled out for something you expect to be spot on straight out of the box. Keep us posted and all the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikkamark Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Only last week my mate bought a brand new marlin hmr and had the same fun as your having paul it just would not group even at fifty yards off a benchrest it was shooting 5-6" groups all over the shop i checked everything and all was tight but the prob stemmed down to a tiny piece of metal at the crown from the thread cutting process you could only see it with a magnifying glass but it was just touching the bullet as it exited the barrel it had to be recrowned and is now shooting 5 bullets into a 10mm group at 100yrds. Seems to me you could have the same prob i dont think its a barrel floating issue when its that bad at 50yrds :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted December 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Well it think its sorting its self out?? I took it out this morning and have put about 30 rounds through it. below are a few picture of the groups it shot first group was with 40grn Norma with Hornady vmax heads then i cleaned it and put through 55grn fedral Power shock soft points which weren't so good so decided to take the mod of, clean it again with a bore snake and try it with the 40grn again, this time it grouped really well so mod back on and 40grn again - not a bad group So then thought try the 55grn again after a clean(with the mod on) - first 2 shots spot on then i had a flyer 2 inch high so clean again and back to the 40grn rounds with the mod on So now i think it's starting to shoot ok, but what do you boys think?:look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Looks like it may be coming together nicely now. May well have been simple fouling/shooting in hiccups, put a couple 100 more through and you'll get your definate answer!! :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Wildfowler Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Had same trouble with both myTikka's 308 & 223 tried home loads no real joy so rang GMK and asked what ammo they used in factory to test zero as it says on box 1inch group at 100yds reply after a lot of hassle was 223 50grn soft point and 308 150grn hammer heads (soft points) sako ammo got some,, problem cured even great groups with 50grn arrow heads and 150 ballistic tip sako Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 I think you're giving yourself a heart attack. Stick to one round until its shooting consistently. Maybe 55gn bullets to start with. You're not doing yourself any favours by switching stuff. You need to be consistent before you start experimenting. Just get it shot in to start with. At 100 yards you should be able to shoot same hole groups. Lorraine can and she's a woman. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted December 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 I think you're giving yourself a heart attack. Stick to one round until its shooting consistently. Maybe 55gn bullets to start with. You're not doing yourself any favours by switching stuff. You need to be consistent before you start experimenting. Just get it shot in to start with. At 100 yards you should be able to shoot same hole groups. Lorraine can and she's a woman. Dave thats were the problems lie though Dave - 50grn just wont group and the 55grn aint much better, the 40's are ok but not what i call a good group its had 80 rounds through it now so should be 'shot in' - i'll try it again and see whats happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 At 100 yards you should be able to shoot same hole groups. Lorraine can and she's a woman. thats were the problems lie though Dave oh no your a woman too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 its had 80 rounds through it now so should be 'shot in' - i'll try it again and see whats happening I'd give, and gave my Remmy, 200 rounds before I thought it shot in. If it's not doing the business after that I'd be really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulkyuk Posted December 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 At 100 yards you should be able to shoot same hole groups. Lorraine can and she's a woman. thats were the problems lie though Dave oh no your a woman too yes shes a one hole woman too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 At 100 yards you should be able to shoot same hole groups. Lorraine can and she's a woman. thats were the problems lie though Dave oh no your a woman too Only at weekends. Unlike you who I saw in a dress in Tesco's last Wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 At 100 yards you should be able to shoot same hole groups. Lorraine can and she's a woman. thats were the problems lie though Dave oh no your a woman too yes shes a one hole woman too You, of course, mean the MOUTH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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