Birds Only at Registered Comps

[Emmsy]

right im asking this mainly to clayman but someone else might know.

 

am i right in thinking that at a registered shoot im entitled to pay for birds only yet im still elegible to high gun money and any sponsored prizes in the classes?

 

my local shoot allways advertise that they pay the HG and 1st in each class, and that the competition money gets paid out 2nd in class onwards.

 

i take it that these are technically sponsored prizes and that i dont need to pay competition entry to be elegible.

 

from what i read through the CPSA rules i believe that to be the case....

 

can this be clarified by anyone?

Edited March 29, 2008 by Emmsy

[Chard]

I know you'd be eligible for High Gun, but not sure about any other prizes.

 

You may well be right, but I wasn't aware of that

Edited March 29, 2008 by Chard

[berettaman1]

I believe Chard is correct, I remember a few years ago reading you could take high gun? but its a no no in the other classes, I once witnessesd a row at Dovey valley where a birds only competitor claimed high gun money, which caused the next comp shooter claiming the money.to object because he believed only competitors who had paid the extra was entitled to it.

[Emmsy]

this is why im questioning it.

 

cpsa rules state....

 

TARGET ONLY ENTRIES

Targets-Only Entries will be permitted at all Registered Events, with the exception of Major

and Minor Championships and other events defined by the Management Board of the CPSA.

Targets-Only competitors at all Registered Events, other than Major and Minor

Championships, will enjoy the same rights and privileges as ‘Prize’ shooters, except that they

will not receive ‘Prize’ entry money, but are eligible to win any trophies, titles or donated

prizes (including ‘specific sponsored cash’), either as overall winners or in their class. Targets-

Only shooters are not eligible to shoot for Regional or County Teams taking part at National

Championships.

 

to me that says im elegible for high gun prize or a class win where the money is sponsored.

[Bagsy]

Only shot two CPSA shoots so i'm not used to the rules yet......but reading the rules you appear to be right.

 

Looking through the rules it also appears I messed up last week as I didn't hand my card in having shot birds only at Barrow Heath, I didn't think it counted for anything

 

So birds only scores count towards everything (including classification) other than prize money?

[berettaman1]

Yes, young Mark, if its registered and you are a member, then your scores are forewarded on to CPSA HQ. and you will will be awarded a classifacation for the type of shoot you have competed in.

[clayman]

This is a common question.

 

In ordinary registered competition run by the club ( ie not a CPSA run championship for which the rules are slightly different as quoted by others), the basic principle is that you have the choice of paying a Targets only fee - the str entry price, or a "competition" price that is higher.

 

All entrants to the "competition" who pay the premium are entitled to win whatever classes and whatever division is in place. They clay ground operator should post a notice to say how the prize fund will be distributed, ie which classes / places / amounts or %ages. The money raised by the additional Competition part of entry belongs to the shooters and the shoot operator should pay it all out intact, and show accounts for this if asked. They are not entitled to ( but have been know to) dip into the competition fund.

 

If you are a CPSA full member your scores go back to your averages whether or not you enter competition (a lot of people believe targets only means they are not having their scores recorded, but there is no difference - if you enter a CPSA competition as a full CPSA member your scores go back to averages regardless of whether you enter "competition" or targets only).

 

If the High gun money is generated by the prize fund, you won't get it if you entered targets only. If there are any trophies, sponsored prises ( including cash) these are not prize fund generated and therefore all entrants are entitled to them - high gun or classes / places as defined by the operator / donator.

 

Clear as mud - glad you are still confused.

 

Jerry

 

ps Berettaman - as the shoots all have a master score sheet, whether or not you handed your card in the scores have gone back to averages.

[The Great Cornholio]

Clear as mud - glad you are still confused.

 

Jerry

Not at all Jerry. Well answered & crystal clear.