Fired 100 carts in 45 mins - too many ?

[moulty]

Hi,

 

I have a Beretta 686E sporter, I brought it off my uncle, it is just 12 months old, rarely used and cleaned / looked after.

 

My friend and I brought a load of clays and cartridges and took our trap to practice down my other uncles farm.

 

We both used my gun and fired about 100 rounds through it in about 45 minutes or so. The barrels, undertsandably, got really hot.

Will firing this amount of carts through it in less than an hour be a problem ? I want to look after my gun and not hammer it

so should I use it less or is it up to the job in that respect ??

 

When cleaning the gun tonight I noticed at the near end of the gun, about 1" or so into each bore that there was a dark band/mark

probably about 1/2 inch long. I dont think they were there before, even after cleaning the bands/marks remained there - the rest

of the bore looked as good as new.

 

Am I worrying about nothing ?

 

Cheers for any advice

Moulty

[Baldrick]

Don't worry - the Beretta will shrug that off with no bother. Your shoulder will give up before the gun will. If you were using an ancient side-by-side with silver soldered barrels, you might have cause for concern.

 

The band in the bore could well be hard-to-shift powder residue from cheap cartridges. A blast of Napier Gun Cleaner and a scrub with a phosphor bronze brush will shift most residue.

Edited May 5, 2008 by Baldrick

[Poacher]

As Baldrick says its no problem, although the top lever on my beretta does play up sometimes when it gets very hot. Although it doesn't bother me

[moulty]

Don't worry - the Beretta will shrug that off with no bother. Your shoulder will give up before the gun will. If you were using an ancient side-by-side with silver soldered barrels, you might have cause for concern.

 

The band in the bore could well be hard-to-shift powder residue from cheap cartridges. A blast of Napier Gun Cleaner and a scrub with a phosphor bronze brush will shift most residue.

 

 

Phew....

 

I use Eley first carts 7.5 Fibre wad..... are these concidered cheap ?

 

Ill put a bit more effort in cleaning those bits.

 

Thanks

[alexm]

Agree with the above. 100 cartridges in 45 minutes is nothing. In clay flushes I've put 100 cartridges through mine in 15 minutes! The barrel was literally burning hot!

 

Is the dark band perfectly uniform? It could simply be the forcing cone where the bore tightens just after the end of the cartridge. The narrowing bore looks like a darker band where it's been machined and this is normal. After this band the barrel should almost be like a mirror if it's perfectly clean. However, if it looks slightly rough just after this uniform band then it is most likely lead fouling where the shot is constricted by the tightening bore. If it is lead fouling the best way to get it off is to give it a good scrubbing with a payne gallway brush.

 

To give you an idea here is a picture of the forcing cone in my one of my Beretta's after it's been given a good clean!

 

Edited May 5, 2008 by alexm

[bob300w]

Don't worry - the Beretta will shrug that off with no bother. Your shoulder will give up before the gun will. If you were using an ancient side-by-side with silver soldered barrels, you might have cause for concern.

 

The band in the bore could well be hard-to-shift powder residue from cheap cartridges. A blast of Napier Gun Cleaner and a scrub with a phosphor bronze brush will shift most residue.

"Ancient" side by sides and the majority of English guns, did not have silver soldered barrels, they had soft soldered (lead/tin alloy) joined barrels, even this would not cause any problems by firing 100 cartridges in 45 minutes. Modern guns, generally, including Berettas, have silver soldered (copper/tin/cadmium/silver alloys) joined barrels.

[moulty]

ALEXM - thanks for the info and picture. I would say my bores look the same as yours in the picture..........

 

Thanks

[Maiden22]

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Edited April 9, 2009 by Maiden22

[MC]

Assuming that you are looking down from the chamber end that is the forcing cone you can see.

 

No ammount of scrubbing will get rid of that, it is meant to be there.

Edited May 6, 2008 by martincavie

[Chard]

Assuming that you are looking down from the chamber end that is the forcing cone you can see.

 

No ammount of scrubbing will get rid of that, it is meant to be there.

 

 

I noticed on my 682 Gold E that the inch or so beyond the forcing cone was caked with residue from cartridges, that I had failed to shift with a quick clean. I thought it was pitting at first, but it was a build-up of ****, that I managed to shift by tipping a load of cleaner down there and cranking away with the wire cleaning brush for ages. It took a hell of a lot of shifting and I see it's building up again now :thumbs:

 

Just as Alexm described really. I hadn't realised it was lead

 

I used Eley First carts for ages, as they were the cheapest I could find but I'm on steel shot now, for the ultimate in cheapskating

Edited May 6, 2008 by Chard

[nforster]

my 682 gold e trap gun has same problem with a build up of hard to shift fouling just past the forcing cones- i think its plastic fouling, easiest way i have found to remove it is to soften with bore foam or other solvent then mount a chamber brush on a drill and give it a quick whizz, only needs a few seconds then bright clean, i might only do this once in a while. spoke to the gunsmith who said it was a commom problem with optima bore barrels.

not noticed the same problem with the mobil choked silver pigeon barrel with same cartridges.

[njc110381]

I've got a Beretta game gun and once shot so many rounds down it in a short time that when it started to rain the water was spitting when it hit the barrels! I could hardly see the targets due to the heat haze! Rifles have issues with hot barrels, but as far as I'm aware shotguns never do. Shoot away and enjoy yourself, just try not to burn your fingers when loading