catch nets ?

[bignoel]

i am trying to find out about a net that launches it self over a good gathering of birds . i have seen them on tv but cant locate them anywhere anyone help .cheers noel

[bob300w]

Not sure, but I don't think that they are legal for catching birds without a licence, that is not granted to members of the public.

[bignoel]

i am a registerd pestcontrol company .npta approved and will be travelling down correct lines .just cant find anywhere to buy one ?

[bob300w]

I would check whether or not that you would be able to get a licence before you look for a supplier;

 

Prohibited methods of killing and taking wild birds;

The following methods of killing, injuring or taking wild birds are normally prohibited, except under licence: Any spring, trap, gin, snare, hook and line, electrical device, poisonous or stupefying substance, net, gas or smoke, baited board, bird lime or similar substance or chemical wetting agent.

 

From; http://www.essexwt.org.uk/conservation/wildbird_info.htm

[bignoel]

i am in the proceeds of applying for license .i just like to be well prepaired ie have nets to hand if allowed . this is for crow/rook/jackdaw

[bob300w]

Sounds an expensive way of getting rid of corvids, you will probably also need an explosives certificate, RCA document, registration/license to store explosives, and a registered HSE approved store for the rockets.

It would be a lot cheaper to get a license to use narcotics, i.e. Alphachloralose, which as a licensed pest controller, you probably already possess.

[bignoel]

bob we are talking a awfull amount of corvids

[Paul223]

Have you tried ladder traps

[henry d]

[bob300w]

It's going to be very labour intensive using nets, and very expensive. certainly no farmers in this area would pay the sort of costs involved. Narcotics would be a one man job. (And that's assuming that you can get a license for either). Do gas guns not work? That's all that is used around here. Of course the other option is to get some volunteers from PW to shoot them? What are they feeding on?

[bignoel]

we tried everything even birds of prey .we have shot hundreds myself 800 and has not put a dent in them.it does.nt help that a farm not to far away has the same problem but not doing much about it,

[bignoel]

hmm gas guns they just laugh at them if i can persuade the keeper next door to allow us to shoot in his wooded cover i shall ask a few pw members to come down .as when shot at they retreat to his wood which we are not allowed to enter the noise is unbeleaverble comeing from them lads would have a ball of a time. i am down there tomorrow i will try and have a chat with keeper . they are feeding on pignuts outdoor pig pens

Edited June 27, 2008 by bignoel

[Paul223]

I take it we are talking rooks, are they on just sown cereals??

[bob300w]

Is it not going to be difficult using nets where you have pens? Ideally you need flat areas, whre the net will drop without leaving any openings. Shooting sounds like the answer, or half a dozen ladder traps, as has been suggested. Are they nesting in the wood?

[bob300w]

As an afterthought, surely the cheapest solution (not the most fun, admittedly) would be to put netting over the top of the pens to prevent access to the food?

[Teal]

Hi noel, I would probably be able to help with the shooting if needed.

 

A ladder trap or two would really mop them up.

 

http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...t=0#entry348456 and http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...;hl=ladder+trap are two topics to get you started. I find that you not only catch and kill a lot of corvids, but it's also highly targeted and stops the problem in the specific area for a reasonable amount of time. Eg I took out about 300 visiting a calf meal shed, there were probably a few hundred more actually feeding on the spilt but once that trap had been in place and the corvids thinned (and you wouldn't notice the difference in their numbers) they did seem to leave the calf meal alone.

[bignoel]

no not sown cereals pignuts in pig pens out doors free range .to bigger area to cover in netting ? food is scatterd from a feeder powerd by a tractor so the pigs have to seek it and keeps them busy.

[Quist]

Either DEFRA or Natural England issue licenses.

They don't normally issue them to untrained persons.

They usually do a site visit and interview.

Certainly to get a Mist Netting licence you have to attend a course and if I remember correctly, its illegal to posses any net requiring a license if you don't hold that license.

AFAIK, NPTA is a membership organisation, not an approvals one, that is the BPCA but I've never seen them offer training in bird capture using nets.

There used to be a Professor Chris Feare of Wildwings who ran mist netting courses about 10 years ago, you could try looking him up.

As pointed out previously, Ladder or Larsen traps are an effective answer and involve less hassle.

[bignoel]

ladder traps asnd larsens are a no go they do not entertain them .i was not looking for mist nets they use them for ringing birds i certainly dont want to ring them [well maybe but not with a ring]

[bignoel]

teal it is a early start .as i have to be there for feeding what is your availibility .can promise a nice pigeon rook crow shoot after over magnet they love it but a slow way of control against the number that is there.