Section 2 Shotgun > Section 1 Shotgun

[pbickerd]

I am thinking about buying a Benelli Supernova. Initially I will use it for clays but futher down the line I would like to try practical shotgun etc.

 

If I buy a Section 2 one with a limited mag capacity, can I convert it to a section 1 later? Maybe replace the mag tube completely or something? I dont know if this is possible but would seem the easiest way of doing it.

 

Thanks in advance

-Paul

[Graham M]

Do you have a firearms certificate?

G.M.

[pbickerd]

Ive not long started probation at a rifle and pistol club so i have probably 3 months to wait before I get my FAC.

 

When I have it I will at somepoint join the Practical Shotgun Assoc. and go for their training. This is way off though and I am itching for that supernova. I do have my SGC.

[mossy835]

they are nice guns, but shell 3 shot is enough stick with that.

[Windknot]

they are nice guns, but shell 3 shot is enough stick with that.

Not for PSG it ain't!

 

But back to your original Q- no idea, have you tried asking your FEO and/ or a gunsmith?

 

As you said, it'll require removing the mag tube from the receiver, ditching the mag plug and replacing the tube with an uncrimped one.

[Hodmedod.one]

FAC Benellis come into the country as 4 shot. I don't think you can remove a standard 3 shot magazine tube and replace it with a longer one. If you could, loads of people would be doing it (including me on my Remi 11-87.

[pbickerd]

Damn So if I was impatient enough to buy one then get Sec1 shotgun on my firearms cert later on I would have to sell up and buy another one. Time to test the willpower I think...

[Windknot]

You can get extended mag tubes from Brownells.

 

Here's one, plenty more where that came from.

 

 

 

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/Pro...MAGAZINE%20TUBE

[Graham M]

Brownells won’t export firearms or parts of firearms. Wouldn’t even send me a set of scope rings.

G.M.

[hawkeye]

You can have a 3 shot semi converted to a section 1

 

Scaffman has just had his 3 shot browning converted to a 10 shot and put on his FAC....

Edited August 18, 2008 by hawkeye

[scaffman73]

PM me any questions you may have

how to get one

what to put on the form

where to get the mag made and fitted

[neil smith]

I am thinking about buying a Benelli Supernova. Initially I will use it for clays but futher down the line I would like to try practical shotgun etc.

 

If I buy a Section 2 one with a limited mag capacity, can I convert it to a section 1 later? Maybe replace the mag tube completely or something? I dont know if this is possible but would seem the easiest way of doing it.

 

Thanks in advance

-Paul

 

Hi Paul

 

I have a Supernova & did exactly what your planning to do, it is easy if you go about it right, I had to buy a S2 because at the time no FAC versions were available, I used an RFD because he was able to get a replacement magazine tube from the USA & fitted it to the gun for me, ( the original mag tube screws out of the receiver on Benelli's, Remingtons do not & cannot be replaced ) it added £40 to the cost of the gun, extending the tube is a simple matter of adding a screw on extension with a longer spring to the existing tube.

 

Peter Starley an RFD from Warwick who shoots a lot of PSG knows more about practical guns than most & stocks the Supernova & the add on extensions made by Nordic Components, if your not familiar with Nordic they quite simply make the best magazine extensions on the planet & they come complete with the longer spring. get the +5 Nordic if you want the tube to be the same length as the 24" barrel model.

 

I only use mine for PSG & shoot most of the UK circuit, as its a pump it will be classed in standard manual division & you will only compete against other pumpers which levels the playing field for pump guns, keeping the gun as short as possible helps a lot on tight stages & I would say keep the capacity to 10 + 1 max. 9 + 1 is fine also.

 

If you want a Basic course or just to attend some club shoots drop me a line.

 

Regards

N

[pbickerd]

Peter Starley you say, that name sounds familiar. I'm just doing my probation period at Wedgnock Rifle and Pistol Club (in warwick) and I think he may be a member or have something to do with the club.

 

I will ask some of the guys when I am back there on Sunday.

 

Thanks for all the advice guys.

 

neil_smith - Where do you shoot? I havent put in my application yet and would love to be able to put in for S1 shotgun first time instead of having to apply for it later and pay for the variation.. Any info you could give would be appreciated.

Edited August 19, 2008 by pbickerd

[neil smith]

Peter Starley you say, that name sounds familiar. I'm just doing my probation period at Wedgnock Rifle and Pistol Club (in warwick) and I think he may be a member or have something to do with the club.

 

I will ask some of the guys when I am back there on Sunday.

 

Thanks for all the advice guys.

 

neil_smith - Where do you shoot? I havent put in my application yet and would love to be able to put in for S1 shotgun first time instead of having to apply for it later and pay for the variation.. Any info you could give would be appreciated.

 

Paul

 

Pete is a member at Wedgenock & quite a few other clubs & is a well know figure around the UK, as he sponsers the UKPSA charity shoot each April & usually there are guns on the prize table there and other shooting goodies, he is a very experienced guy & stocks just about everything you will need for PSG & he wont sell you the wrong thing, I can tell you that in the standard divisions here and in europe the Benelli Supernova & there Auto M2 dominate totally, Pete is a Remington fan & also likes winchesters but I like to pull his leg so tell him I said dont buy anything else

 

I shoot at several clubs, Border Guns, Swadlincote, Worcester, Minsterley & the national & some International matches.

 

If you plan to apply soon there is an opportunity you may not want to miss, Border Guns near Bishops Castle in Shropshire is holding a UKPSA safety course over the weekend of September 6th 7th, it will most likely be the last course held this year & as far as I know still has spaces on it, also Border is a very active PSG club that holds regular club shoots but the big bonus is membership is only £20 per annum currently.

 

http://www.bordergunspsg.co.uk/index.html

 

So join Borders & do the course & your good reason for that Section 1 is taken care of, see Pete for the Benelli & start enjoying some real PSG.

 

N

Edited August 19, 2008 by neil smith

[pbickerd]

That sounds awesome, however, google maps is telling me that from Coventry (where I live), it is: 91.4 mi – about 2 hours 2 mins.

 

Thats quite a long way to travel, I wouldnt be able to make that journey particularly regularly, with the price of fuel it would be a very expensive hobby.

 

If there was a closer club though I would gladly travel that distance just to do the course. Is there anywhere closer to the midlands that shoot PSG that you are aware of?

[Graham M]

Neil, are you the same UKNeil I used to talk to on the Marlin site..

G.M.

[neil smith]

That sounds awesome, however, google maps is telling me that from Coventry (where I live), it is: 91.4 mi – about 2 hours 2 mins.

 

Thats quite a long way to travel, I wouldnt be able to make that journey particularly regularly, with the price of fuel it would be a very expensive hobby.

 

If there was a closer club though I would gladly travel that distance just to do the course. Is there anywhere closer to the midlands that shoot PSG that you are aware of?

 

To shoot quality PSG you will need to travel, there are a few small clubs but they tend to do there own thing & are out of touch with the latest innovations & you may get some duff info that may cost you money in the long run for out of date equipment, Worcester Norton is probably the best for you, they hold club shoots on the first Saturday of each month, PSG one month and Mini Rifle the next & so on, so you get six PSG matches a year & they are not bad. Pete Starley & I are regulars at the PSG events there. The next PSG there is October 4th.

 

The UK Championship is held at several venues, Harlow Nr London. Carlisle, Weymouth & Bishops Castle some ranges hold two rounds per year, so you will need to travel in order to compete at a national level, it is not as big a deal as it sounds & you will be made very welcome by all on the circuit so get on the safety course & join in the fun.

 

In July a group of about 20 UK shooters & 3 Yanks traveled from here to Philippsburg in Germany for the German Open Shotgun Match & we had a great time shooting pistols & AR15's too, we met old friends from the last two European Championship matches & made many new ones, they in turn came over here just a week later & shot the British Open at Border so its a truly International sport that is growning here & around the world.

 

The next club day at Borders is August 30th why not come along and meet the gang & gather some info, we would be happy to see you & show you the game.

 

Graham

 

UK neil is a shooter from Worcester Norton but not me sorry.

 

N

[pbickerd]

Sounds really cool.

 

The only thing holding me back is I would have to serve a full probation period at Worc Norton if I was to join now (whilst still on probabtion at another club and without an FAC). It might be better for me to finish my probation at Wedgnock, get my FAC and a little more exprience then apply for Worc Norton.

 

This will probably mean applying for S1 shotgun as a variation but to be honest when I get my FAC I won't be able to afford to buy a nice 22 target rifle, a S1 shotgun, a long barrel revolver / pistol caliber rifle for the gallery stuff they do at Wedgnock etc. I would be bankrupt I should focus on one thing to get me started.

 

I really have the shooting bug but I think I need to slow down a bit and just work on getting my FAC and first club membership sorted. PSG is definately something I will be looking to do though.

 

I may just get a Supernova on my SGC and practice with it at the clays in the meantime to get used to using it You said get the shortest barrel I can find on it.. what would that be, 26inches?

 

Actually just been reading a little more about Worc Norton, they have pretty generous max MV and ME so it would allow me to get some more interesting stuff :(

 

Wedgnock seems like a cool club with great facilities but they are limited to pistol caliber and rimfire only. This is fine as firing big bore bullets down range all day would empty the bank fast and 0.22 is great for learning. But I would like to have another membership which would allow me to fire some other weapons every now and again. Don't ask me why but I have a real craving for Mosin Nagant :-/

Edited August 20, 2008 by pbickerd

[Graham M]

Wedgnock only allows fullbore stuff from 12.00am – 2.00pm due to complaints from the ***-holes at the golf club some 2-3 miles away.

I used to shoot match rifle there on Sunday afternoon and the regulars with the big stuff had to pack up early and leave whilst we carried on with .22rf.

For some reason this caused a bit of hassle with a couple of them, who thought we were being favoured, and resented us because we were allowed to carry on.

I got brassed-off in the end with the petty niggling from these people and left. Sad really because it is a good range complex, even if they don’t cut the grass on the 100yd range enough.

If I’m wrong on this then I’ll stand correcting, but that was what I was told when I shot there.

G.M.

Edited August 20, 2008 by Graham M

[neil smith]

Sounds really cool.

 

The only thing holding me back is I would have to serve a full probation period at Worc Norton if I was to join now (whilst still on probabtion at another club and without an FAC). It might be better for me to finish my probation at Wedgnock, get my FAC and a little more exprience then apply for Worc Norton.

 

This will probably mean applying for S1 shotgun as a variation but to be honest when I get my FAC I won't be able to afford to buy a nice 22 target rifle, a S1 shotgun, a long barrel revolver / pistol caliber rifle for the gallery stuff they do at Wedgnock etc. I would be bankrupt I should focus on one thing to get me started.

 

For twenty pounds a year you can join Border Guns, they are affiliated to the UKPSA & so by being a member there you can ask for your S1 shotgun right away.

 

PSG can be shot on any suitable land so long as its bird/buckshot only & over a course of fire deemed safe by a UKPSA range officer, Border has several qualified RO's & UKPSA club coaches.

 

Come along on August 30 & try it, we have section 2 guns available that you can borrow & you can see the guns & equipment the top guys are using, I guarantee you will be hooked, gallery rifle shooting will seem plain boring after PSG.

 

N

Edited August 20, 2008 by neil smith

[pbickerd]

Wedgnock only allows fullbore stuff from 12.00am – 2.00pm due to complaints from the ***-holes at the golf club some 2-3 miles away.

I used to shoot match rifle there on Sunday afternoon and the regulars with the big stuff had to pack up early and leave whilst we carried on with .22rf.

For some reason this caused a bit of hassle with a couple of them, who thought we were being favoured, and resented us because we were allowed to carry on.

I got brassed-off in the end with the petty niggling from these people and left. Sad really because it is a good range complex, even if they don’t cut the grass on the 100yd range enough.

If I’m wrong on this then I’ll stand correcting, but that was what I was told when I shot there.

G.M.

 

Unfortunately I think they must have changed what can be shot there, on their website, and I was also told this by one of the training officers the max muzzle velocity and max muzzle energy are as follows:

 

ME 1496 ft/lbs

MV of 2150 ft/second

 

Which rules out all but pistol caliber and rimfire really. Its as shame because as you say they have a nice 100m range. I'm looking forward to some target shooting with 0.22 but I will probably join another range so I can shoot something bigger maybe once a month or something.

 

Neil - You are really tempting me I will have a look at my finances after payday and see what happens, its been a long month..