Shotgun Licence

[4020markd]

My father in law owns a couple of guns and has a relevant licence / gun storage.

 

He has taken me shooting on private land and stood with me whilst I have shot one of his guns, but he would prefer it if I could get a licence so I could use his gun and take the stand on my own.......is this possible?

 

In addition if I then wanted to buy a gun and store within his cabinet can I do this under a licence in my name?

[Newsportshooter]

How old are you?? shotgun law relates mainly to age - as long as you dont have previous convictions and you are of the relevant age you should have no problems

[4020markd]

hi

 

I am 34 so guess I should be home and dry on that front, no convictions etc....it was the fact that the gun/s now and in the future could be stored somewhere else....I am assuming my father in law may need to have his licence updated if I bought a gun on my licence if I was storing in his cabinet?

 

Regarding a cabinet....we have an integral garage (Brick built) can I install a cabinet in there?

[Ozzy Fudd]

you mightnt need to even do that.

 

one of my friends has all his dads guns on his licence, he's only 19. now ots northern ireland so may be different than the mainland, but basically he got the guns on his licence to share, so they can both take out whichever gun they want, whenever they want.

 

only thing is he still lives at home with the family, so that may have an effect on it....

[Andy W]

Pair Away on here has something similar, he and his wife both have a licence each, share a gun safe which they both have access and I am sure both the guns are on Pair Aways ticket.

 

Think of it this way, you can borrow a gun for up to 48 hours with out entering it on your own licence so you could in effect borrow your father in laws guns with his permission of course, shooting with or with out him and with out entering it on your ticket, but it is always nice to have your own gun though.

 

Regarding location of your own gun cabinet, check with the Firearms Officer first, some dont allow cabinets to be put in garages (unless it joins on to the house, has internal access and is alarmed) or out buildings but this varies from area to area.

[sbald]

If you have access to any gun stored in a cabinet then it must be listed on your certificate no matter who owns it,

so your father in laws guns would have to be on your ticket and yours on his.

Much easier to have your own cabinet.

The following is taken from Home Office guidelines to licensing officers

 

Integral Garage Security

2.36 Such a garage should have all its external walls constructed to the same standard (or better)

as those of the external walls of the remainder of the property (eg brick, concrete block, stone).

2.37 The internal adjoining walls, if they are to be used for fixing a cabinet, should be made of

brick, stone or concrete block. Thermal block walls do not usually make a secure anchorage

point unless specialist fitting methods are used.

2.38 The vehicle door of the garage should be secured internally to override the opening of the

door from the outside. The arrangements must ensure that the door is locked to its frame.

2.39 On 'up and over' doors, the locking device should engage the frame and the floor.

2.40 The vehicle door should be of rigid construction, either of timber or of steel. Any

weakness or flexing should be addressed either by reinforcement or by fitting bolting devices to

lock the door into its surround at appropriate locations.

2.41 Any other doors allowing access from the outside should be constructed to the same

specification as the main entry door for a dwelling. Such doors should be secured by locks of a

similar standard to BS3621, or a combination of locks or other supplementary devices to ensure

that the door offers maximum locking effect into its frame.

2.42 Any opening windows should be fitted with appropriate locks. Dependent upon the

vulnerability of these to attack, consideration may need to be given to fitting grilles or bars.

2.43 When firearms are stored in such a garage, and the premises are alarmed, that alarm should

include the garage.

2.44 Ideally, the firearms cabinet should be located as far as possible from the garage vehicle

door.

2.45 The cabinet should be obscured from open view, preferably by enclosure in an unobtrusive

screening device (eg a chest, locker etc).

2.46 The certificate holder should be advised to access the cabinet only when the outer doors are

closed.