mark_mjs93 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) im new to the stickmaking thing and i really would like a bit of advice, i would like to know, what type of wood should i use??? what is coffee staining??? and then any bits you would like to add, im not a beater or anything i just really want something new to enjoy what should i use as a ferrule??? just a qeustion... Edited January 12, 2009 by mark_mjs93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggers Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 hi mate best sticks i would say is hazel i think coffee staining is when you use coffee watered down as a wood stain cut your sticks when ever you find them or some one else will have them give them at least a year to dry out better to work with tie them to a brush shaft to keep them straight and put them in the rafters of your garage or shed make what you like its all about experimenting straighten your bent sticks with an old tea water boiler car boots the best place fopr them get your self a book the complete stick maker is a great book to buy hope this helps and enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeksofdoom Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Here's a few links http://www.bobsticks.co.uk/materials.htm This one should answer all your questions. http://www.thestickman.co.uk/hobby.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 hi mate best sticks i would say is hazel i think coffee staining is when you use coffee watered down as a wood stain cut your sticks when ever you find them or some one else will have them give them at least a year to dry out better to work with tie them to a brush shaft to keep them straight and put them in the rafters of your garage or shed make what you like its all about experimenting straighten your bent sticks with an old tea water boiler car boots the best place fopr them get your self a book the complete stick maker is a great book to buy hope this helps and enjoy cool mate thanks for answering i was starting to lose all hope in this thread 1 more question though, what diameter do you recomend??? just a thought i know some hazel trees nearby that i can take cuttings from and im planning to head down tomorow after school... do i strip bark off of the sticks or can i vary it? i was just thinking about dferent styles, i plan to carve and shape the heads on some and im going to see if i can get hold of some antlers to top some with, as for the ferrule i dont have a clue what to use (dont like spending money me) i think it will be a fun adventure for me to sit and make some nice sticks when i have a bit of spare time on my hands (when im not shooting or fishing lol) should be fun ill go take some cuttings tomorow and ill vary the diameters of them as for ferrules if anyone can recomend something to use as a ferrule (prefferably metal) please say lol, i dont really like to spend money but if push comes to shove i geuss i can. all the best and happy shooting Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFrain Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) hi mate , sticks i have made are usually made from hazel, this is an easy wood to work with and can be easily steam straightened, if you can also get hold of any Rosewood this is lovely stuff and very hard. best thing to do is when out if you see a stick that looks like it could be nice cut it anyway regardless of the type. You will tend to find that a lot of fruit bearing trees produce a good quality wood to work with. Taking the bark of, best to leave it on until the wood has dried out, once dry cut a short section and strip it stain or treat to whatever you like then see what you think saves wasting a good stick. Regarding the ferrule - you could use a brass end of an old cartridge as long as it has a decent collar on it or as and when you get some antler a section of red dear antler is very nice to tip a stick with and also very hard wearing. diameter of stick this is were you need to cut plenty different thickness of sticks as you will need to marry these up to the stick head, antler etc also now is good time to cut sticks as the sap content and moisture levels are down. not being green, etc. another common used item is Black buffalo horn this can be bought online and can be shaped with heat and a little experience and patience. or you can buy dics of it. get some double ended screws also and good quality glue. examples of heads... the first pick is a roe buck antler with the twin point cut off, tipped with black buffalo horn then the cut point put on a leather lanyard just to add a list bit more to it. anyway hope these help a little and happy stick making john Edited January 12, 2009 by JDFrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 As to ferrules, provided you do not need the end covered for any reason, a short length (say 20 to 25 mm) of 22mm copper tube does very well particularly if heated and shrunk on. Can shine up nice too. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 As to ferrules, provided you do not need the end covered for any reason, a short length (say 20 to 25 mm) of 22mm copper tube does very well particularly if heated and shrunk on. Can shine up nice too.D i have a pretty decent length of copper tube but the diameter on it is very small (10mm or so) can it be streched if heated and if so how is the best way to do it??? looking forward to making my first sticks... got 6 drying now looking forward to trying my hand at this sounds good fun.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 As to ferrules, provided you do not need the end covered for any reason, a short length (say 20 to 25 mm) of 22mm copper tube does very well particularly if heated and shrunk on. Can shine up nice too.D i have a pretty decent length of copper tube but the diameter on it is very small (10mm or so) can it be streched if heated and if so how is the best way to do it??? looking forward to making my first sticks... got 6 drying now looking forward to trying my hand at this sounds good fun.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliebrown Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I know nothing about stick making, but you wont be able to stretch 10mm pipe to double its diameter. Get down to the plumbing merchant (a local one not B&Q) and ask for some 22mm straight connectors, basically their slightly oversize inch and a half long pipe fittings for joining 2 equally sized pipes together. One will only cost you a few pennys http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav/nav.jsp?...s=1231839997718 Buy local and they should be under a quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sando Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hi Mark I will have look for a few bits that may be some good to you and send you them free of charge. on nights this week so bear with me. Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 im new to the stickmaking thing and i really would like a bit of advice, i would like to know, what type of wood should i use??? what is coffee staining???and then any bits you would like to add, im not a beater or anything i just really want something new to enjoy what should i use as a ferrule??? just a qeustion... hi Mark, there is a stick making club in luton , they go to all the county shows and they instruct on the art of stick making . My mate is a member and i have some brilliant thumb skicks made from buffalo horn , if your interested i will get you their phone number Dunc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) hi Mark, there is a stick making club in luton , they go to all the county shows and they instruct on the art of stick making . My mate is a member and i have some brilliant thumb skicks made from buffalo horn , if your interested i will get you their phone number Dunc wow thats great lol i might see about visiting or something i am usually down in flitwick (and like if you dont know were that is lol its like right near luton lol) i only really go down to see family but we visit them alot, its my cousin who actually got me into shooting in the first place but brill thanks... Hi Mark I will have look for a few bits that may be some good to you and send you them free of charge. on nights this week so bear with me. Ray. wow dunno what to say, Thanks wow, i totally get your on nights (my mum works nights aswell lol so im used to it) but wow thats amazing, im lost for words (doesnt happen often) you sure you dont want payment??? jeese ace bloke thanks... hoping to see with mum about buying some black buffalo horn, and im chatting with a family friend who shoots deer about getting hold of some antlers... ill find out soon and ill get back to you, i took some cuttings today, but im not sure what types of would they are :S lol i dont like identifying trees without leaves i cut a small amount off of the bottome and i stripped the bark off, and the wood was sort of pink, anyone got any ideas lol, anyway thanks people... thanks for the help people Happy shooting or stickmaking lol or both Mark Edited January 13, 2009 by mark_mjs93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 hi just thought id keep you updated on my first stick, i have just ordered a new Rotary tool from maplin, that should help me out a bit, i have been out and taken a load of cuttings (5 in all, so i have a total of 8 sticks drying) ll hazel cuttings, i found a place were there are loads of them, i have also managed to get hold of 2 sticks which are already dried, they are hazel, and i have already sanded one of them down, and i have everything set for it, i just need to wait for my rotary tool to come through... looking forward to making, will post photos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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