mubz Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Hi all, just wanted to know what your oppinions was on the following.... i have just gained permiton to shoot pigeons over a Wheat/corn farm in warrington. The farmer is a nice bloke and if you are polite he normaly lets you on to shoot. there are about 6/7 other guys that come to shoot on the same bit of land aswell, some of them have had it for 10/20 years... anyway whilst i was out i was approched by a nabouring land owner, he came to introduce himself and to make sure i was not crossing any boundrys onto his patch. He mentioned a guy who shoots on the land i have permition over and was trying to warn me to stay out of his way!! he was baisicly saying this guy HATES it if others are on "his" land (he donsnt own it just got permition) and that he will confront you and try to intimidate you so you can leav. He also said this chap is the sort of bloke who will set up a hide next to yours even if your there after him! and will do his upmost to spoil your days shooting. After i heard this i was realy anoyed as this guy dosnt have the right to be doing what hes doing, i can understand if hes had the land for a long time but hes got just the same rites over it as i do and he donst own any of the land. what do you all this about this??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 forget about it. Say thank you for the info, I'll be sure to stay off your land (or can I shoot your land also). Shoot the field as normal. If the guy does show up, let him go about his business. If he harasses you while you're set up, move to another section of the field. It isn't worth a confrontation of two armed people. If it happens a second time then I'd let the landowner know what is going on. Until then, it is hearsay. Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootnfish Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 its not just shooting where you find this happens i do quite a bit of fishing in the summer(coz im a bit soft and and not to keen to shoot when things have young although i have nothing againt others shooting in summer as my mates do each to thier own) you get some lakes where they dont like new faces. one of the places i shoot at the moment has a few others shoot it as well but it turns out they are nice blokes we bumped into each other the other week and had a chat and swapped phone numbers so we could arrange to try and go at the same time as there are about 10 fields of rape qiuite close together and all quite big so if your on your own you have afew shots and normaly spend the rest of the day chaseing them from field to field but if theres people on other fields we have done better as its been keeping them moving about a bit more. its also handy because if we cant all meet we keep in touch so we dont set up on a field that was shot the day b4 . at the end of the day we are all after the same thing. but i suppose we all come across people like that who think its all thiers whatever you do and all you can do is ignore them and get on with your own thing. the other people that shoot there might be ok. hope it all works out ok for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampa Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 It sounds as if your land sharing chap is a real nice bloke - NOT! People like this dont deserve any place whatsoever in the shooting community and it really annoys me to hear stories like this. If this chap is so bothered by other people sharing the land then he needs to take it up with the landowner/farmer in order to get exclusive rights, but I bet a pound to a penny he has already tried this and been denied it on the basis of that he only turns up to shoot pigeons occasionally and when it suits him and not when the farmer really needs him especially when the crop is really getting hammered, hence the reason why the Landowner is happy to let others shoot the land as well as him. I'd just ignore him, dont let him intimidate you and if things start to get unbearable have a quiet and polite word with the farmer. Like I've said before theres no place in our community for the likes of "Wayne Kerr" , he needs to get over himself and his jelousy and shoot in harmony with others who share the land, who knows,he might just enjoy his sport more and possibly make some good friends to boot rather than making enemies and showing the Anti's the kind of behaviour they exactly want to see. Bear with it mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6shot Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 stick with it mate. you have got the same right to be there as him. i bet your going to do better job anyway. if you bum in to him and he starts ranting at you. make out you dont speak english. me no understanda. but dont let him put you of. good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I wouldnt read too much into this at the moment until you yourself have met him.Chances are,he might be alright and everything has been blown out of porportion with other people.If however he does come over and start ranting-unload your gun,keep your cool and explain you are there with the farmers blessing.Dont let him intimidate you eitherway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 stick with it mate. you have got the same right to be there as him. i bet your going to do better job anyway. if you bum in to him and he starts ranting at you. make out you dont speak english. me no understanda. but dont let him put you of. good luck. and if you do BUM into him, make sure his boyfriend dont find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6shot Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) ops well it could be 1 way to sort the problem out Edited January 16, 2009 by 6shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) if you bum in to him and he starts ranting at you. To be fair, I'd start ranting if someone did that to me EDIT: beaten to it Edited January 16, 2009 by 955i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mubz Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 thanks all for your opinion! realy nice people on this forum, always willing to help! regards mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushtrekker Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 I've been shooting the same area for almost a year now and never seen anyone else, although the land owners did tell me they had a mate who shoots over it and asked if I could move on if he was already on a a field when I got there. On New years day and turned up to shoot to find a car parked at the entrance to the piece of land I was intending to shoot over with two empty gun slips in the back. There was a name on a membership disc on the windscreen, so I tried to ring the landowner to ask if they knew the person before speaking to him. I couldn't get through, but then another car turned up and the guy said he had come to meet the owner of the first car and that the other guy had permission. He called his friend, we met up and he did apparently have permission, so I stayed for a short time, shooting the other end of the field. His son had an interesting 16 bore and I had told him I would check it out for him as I thought it could be valuable, but when I rang him that evening he told me that I had left someone else had turned up who had permission. Last week I went shooting there again, but as there was nothing about I went to another piece of land about a mile away, to find someone else shooting there. When they came over it turned out to be the landowners friend who I knew about, but had never met. He told me that the landowner had recently signed a new lease and had been forced to name two individuals to carry out pest control over the land, so my permission was no longer valid. I told him to let the landowner know that I hadn't got a problem with that as it was the least productive piece of land on their farm from my point of view. during the conversation they mentioned at least two other people they had permission on the land. Multiple permission seems common and my FEO told me last year that she had picked up on one piece of land which kept appearing on FAC applications, to the point where they had restricted it. In my case however, it seemed dangerous, as I'm not really a shotgun shooter. The first piece of land I mentioned is cleared for me to use .223 on and the second piece is cleared for .22 and .17 HMR, something which the landowner knows as he signed my FAC application. I can see why landowners do this, as if their crops are being hammered by rabbits or pigeons on Wednesday, they don't want to wait until Saturday for something to be done about it, but where firearms are concerned it can be a dangerous practice. I know Tony Wall, who runs Sandwell Field Sports and a few years ago I mentioned that I had permission on a certain golf course in Shropshire. He laughed and told me I would go once, but when I asked him what he meant he laughed and said I would find out when I got there. He was right, the first time I went I was standing in the middle of an apparently deserted golf course at midnight when someone next to me said hello! It turned out that the greenkeeper was giving permission to everybody and his brother and they were using everything from 12 ft lb air to firearms on there. In your case it's not so bad, as at least you can hear shotguns going off. If I was in your position I would go out of my way to meet others who had permission and co-ordinate your efforts, pushing pigeons from one hide to another by keeping them on the move. The other piece of advice I would give is to shoot at every given opportunity, as there is no quicker way of losing a shoot than not going regularly. The farmer wants pests controlling, so make sure you show him your bag occasionally, so that he can see you are doing the job. Cheers, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mubz Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 problem now solved! spoke to farmer and he said the other land owner is talking rubish! he said if you do come across anyone like that i should let him know as he will send them home and asked not to come back. looking forward to the spring drillings now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Rightly so Mo. Rightly so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev 1 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Good news ,look after it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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