RhiannonBW Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Hi All Having been bitten by the airgun bug, I'm looking at what gun to buy for my first choice. I am keen to do both target and a bit of pest control (squirrels - my cats would sulk if I deprived them of their rats). Being a mere slip of a girl, the weight will be an issue. However, I don't want to be filling up air/gas all the time either. Can you recommend a good all rounder that would be suitable to buy second hand, or what I should be looking for when I'm choosing a gun? The choice out there is confusing me. If it's a cheap option I could possible persuade hubby that I need two different guns, one for target and one for pest control. Thanks. Rhiannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hezbear Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 B.S.A. supersport carbine is a good accurate lightweight springer, you should be able to pick one up for £150 with scope and bag. You would be able to target shoot and hunt with it, i've had 2 and they are excellent guns, but i've got a hw100 now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larson Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 aa s200 but it will need filling often.. £250 should buy a nice 1 and they are light and acurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Depends on your budget?I would highly recommend an Air-Arms S410 Carbine .177 as a superb pest control rifle.This is a Precharged Pneumatic airgun and again you would need charging gear.If you want a spring rifle for yourself then have a close look at a BSA Lightning,again in .177 format for both pest-control and Target shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtreedave Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 i know some on here dont like them[i know theyre ugly]but try a gunpower stealth.theyre light enough to cary all day,cary enough air to empty a tin of pellets and best of all are very accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) Hi All Having been bitten by the airgun bug, I'm looking at what gun to buy for my first choice. I am keen to do both target and a bit of pest control (squirrels - my cats would sulk if I deprived them of their rats). Being a mere slip of a girl, the weight will be an issue. However, I don't want to be filling up air/gas all the time either. Can you recommend a good all rounder that would be suitable to buy second hand, or what I should be looking for when I'm choosing a gun? The choice out there is confusing me. If it's a cheap option I could possible persuade hubby that I need two different guns, one for target and one for pest control. Thanks. Rhiannon You know what - I'm gonna be a pain and say it can't be done If you want light, you gots to go PCP. If you want ease of use and not faffing with filling, you need a springer - but it comes at a cost; Extra weight. Thankfully though, that's where the additional cost ends as springers are FAR cheaper than PCP. You want my advice? I'll give it anyway Get a single shot, break barrel, second hand weihrauch/bsa/air arms. Sure look into the lighter ones, and go for those models. 1. It is your first airgun - get something cheap! 2. It is your first airgun - get something simple! 3. It is your first airgun - get something good coz you'll love it forever Then if you REALLY want to get into competition/open up a pest control service then get some bad*** PCP and a diving bottle! Hope that helps, Boomstick Edit: check this maybe? http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...c=81944&hl= Edited March 12, 2009 by Boomstick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacey Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Air Arms S410K. Had one of these and loved it, even my missus could use it as it was short and relatively light. The Air Arms S200 is also really nice and light. Both precharge though!! The only problems with spring guns is they are single shot and a little noisy for pest control. I had the HW80 and although a fantastic rifle it was just too noisy in the field and heavy but devastatingly accurate. You'd pick one up unscoped second hand for £200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhiannonBW Posted March 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Wow - thanks for all the advice guys, and the gun offers I've had via PM. I will be writing down the list and taking it with me to the air gun club on Monday night and hopefully we'll be able to start narrowing down the list. Rhiannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Put it this way Rhiannon,if you see and handle an Air-Arms S410K-YOU WILL WANT ONE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacey Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Put it this way Rhiannon,if you see and handle an Air-Arms S410K-YOU WILL WANT ONE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 quote name='bullet boy' date='Mar 13 2009, 02:10 PM' post='704291'] Put it this way Rhiannon,if you see and handle an Air-Arms S410K-YOU WILL WANT ONE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAN88 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Webley tracker carbine,simple light, accurate,good power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteD Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 If you do decide on a pcp then have a look at the BSA Ultra, it's a light compact rifle that does just as well as it's larger kin. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power ranger Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Top advice from Boomstick !!! Top advice from PeteD also, the BSA ultra are top class, multi-shot is even better, i own one and wouldent change it for anything. To many people imediately think Daystate, Airarms and that funny sounding German make, cant quite remember what its called lol !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_seagrave Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Get a single shot, break barrel, second hand weihrauch/bsa/air arms. Sure look into the lighter ones, and go for those models. That's good advice from Boomstick - second hand break barrel Weihrauch would get my vote. Great value for money, solid build quality, accurate and portable. LS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 A good cheap pre charged gun would be my recommendation. An Air Arms S200 is a very accurate and light weight rifle which doesn't cost a lot. I had one, you can get a ten shot magazine attatchment if you want, or they are single shot as standard. I say pre charged because springers are harder to shoot. The way you hold them can have an effect on where the pellet goes for a start. Then there is the recoil, which although not a lot makes them harder to shoot accurately. All the most accurate springers are heavy (AA TX200, HW97, HW80 etc). I have a lot of air gun experience and when I went back to a BSA Lightning after owning an S200 for a couple of years I couldn't hit a thing! I was getting inch groups at 25 yards with it, where as with the S200 I could knock the ember off a cigarette every time at that range! A .177 would be my choice too. Trajectory calculation is much easier than a .22 and they kill just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul@Ribchester Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Why dont you post a picture of yourself then we can advise what gun would fit your frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Why dont you post a picture of yourself then we can advise what gun would fit your frame? I like it! A bit sneaky but well thought out It's easy enough to guess by what's been said already that a big gun could be a bit much for the field. I really do think an S200 would be a good choice unless the budget is higher. If it is then an S410 would be better but will cost you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan222 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 bsa ultra you will love it ,light, 40 shots per fill you can carry it all day ,powerfull ,very acurate, loves nocking off squirrels & rabbit, nice and short ideal in farm buildings ie rats, ferrals, dont need to say any more. buy one forget the springers ,Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonrocket Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Dan222 is not wrong. The BSA ultra is excellent. Not light but all the mass is close to the body so good. I love mine, I have an AAS410 carbine and that is also an excellent rifle but have to admit my Ultra gets out more. But then I have an obligation to a land owner to rid him of rabbits and as such in this spring my AA will have its day and many rabbits will meet their maker. I think a man or lady should be just as good a shot with a decent rifle. See what feels right for you enjoy your shooting. Carbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhiannonBW Posted March 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) Why dont you post a picture of yourself then we can advise what gun would fit your frame? Seeing as you asked so nicely: This is me and my gun: This is me, my best friend and my fourth favourite thing in the world - cigars! (I'm on the right) Link to a bigger version And finally, this is me at a photo shoot I did with my husband: Link to a bigger version Sorry I can't figure out how to get the photos any bigger when I upload them? Anyway, back to the guns! I've decided my first airgun is going to be a spring loader, just need to wait and find the right one secondhand. Rhiannon x Edited March 17, 2009 by RhiannonBW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) It's all gone quiet.....Have all the old guys had heart attacks or something?! If you do go for a springer please don't buy a really light one, they're quite hard to shoot accurately and you don't need that as a beginner. This one is good.. http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/Det...+698&Filter[NewType][]=Air%20Rifle&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Break%20Barrel&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Gas%20Ram&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Under%20Lever&Filter[Calibre][]=.177&Filter[Calibre][]=.22 This one is amazing.... http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/Det...+698&Filter[NewType][]=Air%20Rifle&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Break%20Barrel&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Gas%20Ram&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Under%20Lever&Filter[Calibre][]=.177&Filter[Calibre][]=.22 Another good one... http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/Det...+698&Filter[NewType][]=Air%20Rifle&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Break%20Barrel&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Gas%20Ram&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Under%20Lever&Filter[Calibre][]=.177&Filter[Calibre][]=.22 Not bad... http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/Det...+698&Filter[NewType][]=Air%20Rifle&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Break%20Barrel&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Gas%20Ram&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Under%20Lever&Filter[Calibre][]=.177&Filter[Calibre][]=.22 I hope I got the area roughly right. Your profile says midlands and this guy isn't far away from there. I've bought from him in the past too so I'm happy to recommend him. Edited March 17, 2009 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhiannonBW Posted March 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 If you do go for a springer please don't buy a really light one, they're quite hard to shoot accurately and you don't need that as a beginner. I like a challenge Though I'm veering towards buying two guns, one for the challenge of shooting accurately with targets, and one for when there is no room for error when shooting vermin. I hope I got the area roughly right. Your profile says midlands and this guy isn't far away from there. I've bought from him in the past too so I'm happy to recommend him. I did call in there the other day and was very impressed with the service, they let me look at lots of guns and were very patient. Rhiannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 I'm a little confused now! If you can afford two guns then why not buy one really good one? Any rifle is a challenge and you can always improve on your accuracy right up to competition standard. If you have the money that Theoben I linked is a stunning rifle. You'll find it quite easy to shoot compared to something lighter and the gas ram is really smooth. You don't need to buy a hard to use rifle to challenge yourself. Just shove the target out at 50 yards instead of 25 and your groups will open up considerably! Then you can work on reducing them. It will also mean that you target shoot with your Vermin rifle so out in the field you'll be more confident with it. That will mean at closer ranges you'll be able to place the pellet exactly where you want it. I used to put a polo mint on my backstop in the garden. When I had my S200 (.177) I used to try to fire five shots through the hole without breaking it. Now that's a challenge! They do fit, but only just! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhiannonBW Posted March 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) I'm a little confused now! If you can afford two guns then why not buy one really good one? It's because I really love the older guns, I've been shooting some 50/60 year old guns and last night one that was 100 years old (managed to get a bulls eye but suspect it was more luck than judgement), but also want something that is pinpoint accurate for vermin and for those times when I want something less challenging, so I feel that two different guns is the way to go. It may be that I get lucky and find my perfect gun all rolled into one. Rhiannon Edited March 17, 2009 by RhiannonBW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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