gameshooter09 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) Hello, I may sound mad saying this, but I just bought a 20g cleaning kit for my 20g gun. All the brushes fit snug down the barrel, however this particular brush gets stuck about 2 inches down. Is this commen just because its new, or is it the incorrect mop? Thanks Edited March 27, 2009 by gameshooter09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Have you checked the brush diameters? The bronze will be 23mm dia , while a 20b 19mm Even if its a 12b, it should compress enough to go through although the correct size will be much easier. The bore should be lubricated with 009 or similar before passing the bronze, its the second pass used ( rod out with patches first to remove loose debris, then treat barrels and bronze. Patch again and check for fouling, re-bronze as needed till fully clean, and pass a lightly oiled mop through to leave an oil film). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameshooter09 Posted March 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) So its supossed to be a very tight fit? And yes I have 009, I thought I put this on the bronze mop. Edited March 26, 2009 by gameshooter09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Have you checked the brush diameters? The bronze will be 23mm dia , while a 20b 19mm Even if its a 12b, it should compress enough to go through although the correct size will be much easier. The bore should be lubricated with 009 or similar before passing the bronze, its the second pass used ( rod out with patches first to remove loose debris, then treat barrels and bronze. Patch again and check for fouling, re-bronze as needed till fully clean, and pass a lightly oiled mop through to leave an oil film). Hi, I think Clayman has had a slip of the pen. A 12 bore is 19mm ish. 20 is 16 ish. The pb brush, as he says, should be a little bigger. By the sound of it the brush is going into the larger diameter chamber then getting stuck in the cone. Suspect oversize brush. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexm Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) I'm a bit confused by what you mean by 'bronze mop'? A brush? A Jag? Or a Mop? Edited March 27, 2009 by alexm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Hi, Suddenly occurred to me, does your brush look like the one in Alex M's post? If so, my last remains valid. However, if yours seems shorter and the brush wires much more compact then you have what is known as a (my spelling may be suspect here) 'Payne Galway' version. These can require quite a shove especially when new but even so, they still wont be much wider than 16mm for your 20 bore. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameshooter09 Posted March 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 (edited) No, its none of them.. I will see if I can put a picture on here later. Its just like coils of spiraled metal wire, I got it with the 20g Beretta cleaning kit. Its the one in the bottom right corner.. I believe its called a metal jag, but just a different style than the one in alexm's picture. Cheers Edited March 27, 2009 by gameshooter09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 OK, Mate, Going to take a flyer here. Quite happy to be corrected. That looks a lot like what I've known as a turks head. These were steel and used only sparingly when necessary to clean heavily fouled barrels. However, this looks like pb. Could it be a chamber brush? No doubt a fellow Beretta owner will put us straight. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexm Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 It's not a jag, a jag is designed to wrap patches around. I think what you have there is a 'tornado' brush. It should go through ok but will probably put up a bit more resistance than a normal bristle brush. (unless it is supposed to be a chamber brush in which case it will probably not go through!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Alexm, Nice one. Never heard of tornado (yank) . Prefer our name (easily imagine a turban being wrapped around). Appears to be stainless steel so provided it's not a chamber brush, I wouldn't use unless the conventional pb brush fails to remove any fouling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddan Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 hi I had the same thing on my 12b with the same brush type. To start with it wouldnt go past the cone and i used it to clean the chambers but after a while it softened and will now go all the way through no problem. I use it often because it does a good job at removing tough bits but then I am not sure offically what it is or if it is meant to be used in this way Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Get a Bore Snake - its easier!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 They can be a bit tight when first used, i know some people that have resorted to using a mallet when all that is needed is to remove their chokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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