sdarmstrong Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Can someone tell me the differences,advantages, disadvantages etc of one over the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 what do you mean .22 vs .22LR? they are all .22? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdarmstrong Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I dont know what the different letters mean after the 22?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumpersniper Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 i think .22 is what people call the .22LR (Long rifle) which is a cartricge about 3/4 inch long, .22WMR is i think winchester magnum rifle which is the same size bullet i think but a longer case (might be wrong someone else will explain better) theres also .22 short which is about half an inch in total, dont know what these are for, comps i think, and slaughtering livestock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 do a web search on .22wrm wikpedia and .22lr wikpedia and read all about it. if you study these two wikpedia articles you will most likely have your answers in detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 The 22 short are what were used in fairgrounds, years ago. The winchester magnum round is an excellent caliber. The .17HMR uses the WMR case, but is 'necked down' to accept the .17 bullet head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Google Chuck Hawks, it's a website with a lot of great info on calibres, guns etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 i think .22 is what people call the .22LR (Long rifle) which is a cartricge about 3/4 inch long, .22WMR is i think winchester magnum rifle which is the same size bullet i think but a longer case (might be wrong someone else will explain better) theres also .22 short which is about half an inch in total, dont know what these are for, comps i think, and slaughtering livestock thumper, The 22 WMR (22 mag) has a .224" jacketed bullet just the same as a 22 centerfire. The other 22 rimfires all use a .222" lead bullet (the copper bullets are only plated, not jacketed, except for the new lead free stuff). The 22 mag bullets can be used in a 22 hornet or 223 if you like, while the 22LR bullets can not. Thanks, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumpersniper Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 casts by fly, i see, i thought they were the same bullet as .22 rimfires. When i was younger the huntsman i used to go hunting with had a .22 rifle, and a pistol for humane slaughter, in the pistol he put .22LR and he had longer carts that went in aswell he called them magnums, they were about an inch long i think. Im sure the rifle also took both cartriges, but im not sure, would this have been a .22WMR and he was putting .22LR through it too? or is there some magnum round for the .22LR? i read somewhere that they are obselete, but he probably had an old lot or something? cheers, SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 couple possibilities. First, it could have been a 22LR chamber and he was using shorts and LR (or potentially stingers which are a fraction longer, but still fit). Shorts can be used for humane dispatch as they have a very low report, and the low energy doesn't cause pass throughs or back 'splashes'. It could have been a 22 mag chamber. You can put a 22LR into a 22mag chamber. I think the extractors will hold it in place and it will fire. The bullet is smaller (by 0.002") so there is no obstruction, but there will be a considerable jump to get into the rifling. It isn't safe and manufacturers will tell you not to do it. You shouldn't do it. But some people do, mistakenly thinking that it is safe. A final possibility for a revolver is that Ruger sold a 22/22mag revolver for a lot of years (might still). You changed the cylinder to accomodate 22LR or 22 mag rounds. The bore was 0.224" to fit the 22 mag, so 22LR bullets didn't fill the grooves entirely. I seem to remember that accuracy could sometimes be suspect, but I can't confirm that. It is unlikely that he was putting a 22mag cartridge in a 22LR chamber. It wouldn't chamber fully, and I'm pretty sure it couldn't fire. If you did, you'd certainly have a high pressure situation with a jacketed .224" bullet going down a .222" bore made for lead bullets. And if it wasn't chambered entirely, you'd split the casings around the casehead and probably blow the bolt out of the gun sideways. Thanks, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumpersniper Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 no it wasnt shorts, although i agree it could have been, but they were definetley .22LR i am just not sure what the longer ones were. As you say i think they were probably .22 magnum, and he was loading them incorrectly. Thanks for the info! SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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