Ozzy Fudd Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Which can be read as "we don't know, why u askin us?" typical cop response as monkeyboots says time to get basc/sacs in to clear this up, let them earn their membership money for a change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayfly36 Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) Sent S.A.C.S AN EMAIL. So will see what they can find out Edited September 22, 2009 by mayfly36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie mac Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I sent the countryside alliance an email this is what they said Dear David The only thing which may be shot on Sundays is vermin. Kind regards Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 ive sent basc an email, waiting on a response but on checking their site it says no birds may be shot on sundays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I sent the countryside alliance an email this is what they said Dear David The only thing which may be shot on Sundays is vermin. Kind regards Ashley So if you classed crows as vermin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayfly36 Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 here.s S.A.C.S Response......................... "I have NO idea where the other organizations you asked got their information, but it’s a lot of rubbish! The legal position in N.I is that it is illegal to shoot wild quarry of any kind on a Sunday, except for a few specific exceptions such as for public health or airport safety reasons - sport is sadly not one of them. The law is well hidden among the various Acts, but I double-checked all three types to be sure for you - game is covered by one Act, wildfowl and other quarry species by a second Act, and even the N.I. Public General Licenses which allow you to shoot pigeons and corvids excludes Sundays. Hope that helps to clear things up for you Best regards Ian Clark Director, SACS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 here.s S.A.C.S Response......................... "I have NO idea where the other organizations you asked got their information, but it’s a lot of rubbish! The legal position in N.I is that it is illegal to shoot wild quarry of any kind on a Sunday, except for a few specific exceptions such as for public health or airport safety reasons - sport is sadly not one of them. The law is well hidden among the various Acts, but I double-checked all three types to be sure for you - game is covered by one Act, wildfowl and other quarry species by a second Act, and even the N.I. Public General Licenses which allow you to shoot pigeons and corvids excludes Sundays. Hope that helps to clear things up for you Best regards Ian Clark Director, SACS this is what i thought we'll wait for basc to come back to me,see what the general consesus is then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Balls. dont think you can shoot those either on a sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayfly36 Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Balls. :good: <_< :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) think if ive read this link correct then its ok to shoot rabbits on a sunday read section 10 as i say think im right but then i again i could be wrong http://www.opsi.gov.uk/legislation/norther...20020002_en.pdf Edited September 22, 2009 by monkeyboots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) that section 10 bit then, where it says rabbits arent defined as ground game anymore? Finally, the Act substitutes a new section 7A of the 1928 Act which deals with the protection of game and rabbits at certain times. The new section 7A relaxes the current controls on where and when rabbits can be shot, to allow for pest rabbits to be shot on any lands at any time, but subject to the requirement that the person must hold a valid gun licence and be an authorised person in relation to the land in question. As a consequence of this relaxation the Act repeals the provisions in the Ground Game Acts which deal with and define rabbits as ground game for the purposes of the those Acts. The Ground Game Acts previously allowed farmers to control rabbits which are damaging their crops without requiring a game licence. It remains an offence under the new section 7A of the 1928 Act to kill, take or destroy any game on Sundays or at night Edited September 22, 2009 by babbyc1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Ok. Can someone please tell me, I have permission on rabbits near home. They are vermin, eating crops and grass and destroying ditches etc. If I'm shooting them on a Sunday and the peelers roll up am I ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Ok. Can someone please tell me, I have permission on rabbits near home. They are vermin, eating crops and grass and destroying ditches etc. If I'm shooting them on a Sunday and the peelers roll up am I ok? As I understand it you will be ok if the rabbits don't get up and fly away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) Ok. Can someone please tell me, I have permission on rabbits near home. They are vermin, eating crops and grass and destroying ditches etc. If I'm shooting them on a Sunday and the peelers roll up am I ok? we need to take a look at the 3 pieces of legislation the sacs bloke mentioned, he says different ones cover different things The law is well hidden among the various Acts, but I double-checked all three types to be sure for you - game is covered by one Act, wildfowl and other quarry species by a second Act, and even the N.I. Public General Licenses which allow you to shoot pigeons and corvids excludes Sundays. then itll be a case of doing what you think is right. also this bit The legal position in N.I is that it is illegal to shoot wild quarry of any kind on a Sunday, except for a few specific exceptions such as for public health or airport safety reasons we need to find out exactly what those exceptions are, but if he's double checked them all i wouldnt do it until we see what they say, and then itll be a case of your own interpretation (same as non fac holders shooting with your gun) Edited September 23, 2009 by babbyc1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayfly36 Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Anybody contacted CSA OR BASC YET to see what their interpretation is on this matter... i knew this would roll on a bit, with all we have read so far, its clear no shooting birds or any wildfowl, so where do we stand on the underground chicken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) i filled in a contact request on the basc site yesterday, have had no response yet, ill give them a call later (if i can get through ) gonna pm david basc too edit - got a pm back from david (cheers mate, very quick reply), he's confirmed shooting wild birds on a sunday is a complete no-no, he's looking into the mammal aspect for us Edited September 23, 2009 by babbyc1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I just spoke to my FEO and he says the only thing that can be shot over here on Sundays are clays. Anything else and your caught you will loose your FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I just spoke to my FEO and he says the only thing that can be shot over here on Sundays are clays. Anything else and your caught you will loose your FAC. not even paper targets or dishwashers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 not even paper targets or dishwashers? aye papers targets and dishwashers are ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 aye papers targets and dishwashers are ok phew! thats my sundays safe! basc have a couple of guys reading through all the laws in great detail at the mo, so hopefully we'll get a complete answer to this once and for all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Does that include or exclude paper targets with pictures of birds and rabbits and rats on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Does that include or exclude paper targets with pictures of birds and rabbits and rats on them? pictures of birds and rabbits? i only use figure 11 targets on sundays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 itll be a case of your own interpretation (same as non fac holders shooting with your gun) Don't be tellin me there's a problem with non FAC shooting my gun! When my FEO called round to interview my brother for his shotgun cert she asked had he built up much experience on me and Dad's guns, he said 'Aye sure I shoot them all the time' and she was delighted with that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Don't be tellin me there's a problem with non FAC shooting my gun! When my FEO called round to interview my brother for his shotgun cert she asked had he built up much experience on me and Dad's guns, he said 'Aye sure I shoot them all the time' and she was delighted with that... dont open that can of worms the only way someone can use your gun is if youre the occupier of the land; but the thing is theres no legal definition of occupier! some say its the owner or the person who rents the land, some say if you hold the shooting rights you can be classed as the occupier, and some say if you have permission to shoot there then technically youre the occupier too. it basically comes down to how you interpret it and arguing your case if you ever get pulled for it bet youre glad you found this place now arent you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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