kyska Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I wonder how many folk realise how much energy these rounds carry out to say 600 yards. That's way way further than 99% of shooters will take a shot at live quarry. Even a feeble little air rifle chucking a 15 grain bullet out at 600 fps has enough knockdown energy at 60 yards to kill a rabbit if shot placement is good, and probably a little further too. And folk are thinking about whether a bullet shifting at 3500 fps with an energy of 1300 ft-lb is enough because it comes out a different size muzzle. Nah course it ain't lol,,,, get whatever you fancy, they will all put the lights out,,,, if you can hit the spot of course. Fail that bit and you may as well get a blow pipe. This, I get some good mannered banter for using a 25-06 on deer, whilst my shooting buddies use far larger calibers, goes quiet once we start talking BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Colin, are you using the 204 as a rabbiting rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 It will be a night time fox gun but if a rabbit gets in the way then more fool the rabbit Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 It will be a night time fox gun but if a rabbit gets in the way then more fool the rabbit Colin they will only do it once thy they will be fox soup Im just trying to decide on where and what for as well now colin. the 17 rem is calling but the .204 might just pip it. depends on the action i find for the build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 they will only do it once thy they will be fox soup Im just trying to decide on where and what for as well now colin. the 17 rem is calling but the .204 might just pip it. depends on the action i find for the build The more I hear and read the more I am glad I went 204 Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 after a call from the feo today was told all good to go so have placed my order with rfd and now have a howa 1500 mini action in 204 on order come on mr postman hurry up colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzab Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 The suspense is killing me as well... Desperate too see this in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) Congrats Colin. 204 is a cracking round and great choice for night shooting of fox. However, there are way too many urban myths about calibres when the truth is at night, not many people, in the dark will take anything past 250 yards, at least not routinely. Lets look at the drop figures for a 40g V-max in 204 V's 223 both zeroed to 200 yds: .223 Rem: .204 Ruger Range Velocity Drop Velocity Drop 0 3800 1.5 3900 1.5 100 3249 0.9 3482 0.7 200 2762 0 3103 0 300 2324 -5.5 2755 -4.3 The truth is, to 300 yards, there's nothing in it when comparing a 40 grain pill used in each calibre, bar 1.2 inch difference in drop. You can give a little hold over, gun goes bang, fox is dead either way. One has very little real world advantage over the other Take your pick. Both are good, both are negligible recoil, both can be effectively moderated. It's only when you go to more extended range that the poorer BC of the 223 starts to lose out, but would you really want or consider shooting a fox with a 204 using such a light round at, say 400 or 500 yards? I wouldn't. In the dark there's no real advantage once you have to start thinking about dialling or ballistic rets (which work as well for 223 as they do for 204) once out past 300 yards. Having said all that, the 204 would be my choice over the 17 Rem. 17's suffer more from poor BC, shed velocity fast and are more susceptible to wind drift. 204 or .223 are both cracking good calibres. Edited September 29, 2016 by Savhmr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) Yes like you say not a lot in it though most the load data I looked at none went over 3660 fps for 223 or 222 viht only went to 3770 so would be a max loads where the 204 won't be near max at 3900 Colin Edited September 29, 2016 by colin lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe soapy Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 after a call from the feo today was told all good to go so have placed my order with rfd and now have a howa 1500 mini action in 204 on order come on mr postman hurry up colin Well done on the mini, i have the 223 version. Have put 200 reloads through so far and accuracy is now settling down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Well done on the mini, i have the 223 version. Have put 200 reloads through so far and accuracy is now settling down did you run it in ?? think i shall take a day out and just give it a gentle run in colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 did you run it in ?? think i shall take a day out and just give it a gentle run in colin Did you find that article interesting Colin ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Did you find that article interesting Colin ? yes mate i do like reading up on these thing few years ago i just wanted to get out and shoot but think i am becoming a shooting nurd lol colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe soapy Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 did you run it in ?? think i shall take a day out and just give it a gentle run in colin Not as such, just kept running 20 shots through at a session , reloading the cases and going at it again, Took a while to get used to, the hmr likes being rested on the wing mirror, the mini likes the bipod and a rear rest, 55gn bullets and a case filled to the neck with varget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) well picked up the 204 yesterday so today pick up some rounds to run it in and made a few home loads up for after, so shoot one clean shoot one clean for 5 then 5 groups of 3 with a clean in between, then 5 shop brought rounds to dirty it then 3 groups of home loads at 100 yards and had all 3 groups of 3 touching so more than happy with that and that was the 1st recipe, after shooting them took a look and thought that was more than good enough for vermin shooting funny how when you get home and start thinking you straight away start thinking what can you do to better them lol, as others have said it's a cracking round and glad i went for it colin Edited October 10, 2016 by colin lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 10, 2016 Report Share Posted October 10, 2016 Good news Colin, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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