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Strangely enough, the seller felt I wasn't good enough to buy any of the plugs, despite promising me two when I emailed asking for the paypal details so I could pay. I paid instantly on receipt of the paypal details and got a message a day later that they were "all sold out" now despite there being messages well after mine reserving a plug . I guess sellers have the right to sell to whomever they please, but it would be nice if they indicated that sales were going to be to a selected set of buyers only so that the rest of us didn't bother to waste our time or money. Why bother to treat people like that?

Hi Martin I'll have two please, if you still have some. Please send me paypal details and I'll arrange payment directly. Thanks Laurie

Bargain for someone....new price is around £530 without a tripod or postage, so the saving was around £160 or so, quite a bit. I don't recall seeing many pop up second hand, and this one is a current model as being sold at the moment. Nice piece of kit.

I wouldn't pay all that much attention to reviews like that - it's only one persons opinion and their experience of the gun may be vastly different to your own, as well as perhaps being an entirely different body shape and size. Berettas are NOT mediocre guns, they are fine guns with great pedigrees and will serve you well. My Ultra XS is also for sale as it is too heavy for me, despite being an excellent gun. A gun is only good for you if it fits you well and you are comfortable with it. I've bought several Beretta SemiAutos now, and a Silver Pigeon (687) III O/U 12g and the shooting experience is sooooo much better than with a Browning. Don't be nervous to change, put it down to experience!!!

My Browning Ultra XS Titanium Prestige with adjustable comb is for sale. It has 5 extended Briley Titanium chokes, Browning choke key, 30" barrels, and removable gold plated triggers (2). It is cased in a lovely aluminium flight / motoring case. LOP is 14 1/2 inches. It has been cast on for a Left Hand shooter and has a Kick-eeze recoil pad added. Exhibition grade wood - really nicely figured. It is a beautiful, pedigree sporter which will serve a competition shooter well. Gun can be seen and tried at Doveridge. It has had less than 1000 cartridges through it, bought new from Brierley Guns about 6 months ago. Has a 10 year warranty on the action. Sorry no pics at the moment, will organise some when I'm back in the area in 2 weeks if the gun is not sold yet, PM me for details . Looking for £1900 ono.

:lol: They're a right barrel of laughs, aren't they, the O/U snobby trap shooters, and so welcoming....NOT!!! :blink: :blink:

You have a PM

There's a 302 I've seen at Doveridge around £350 - you'll be able to try before you buy and get a warranty from them, although I guess a private sale will be cheaper.

Try advertising in the For Sale section - that's where most folk look for items for sale, not on the general forums.

for the help and replies. Will pack a mole wrench in the range bag along with a piece of leather. Also thanks to Viking for sending me a spare Beretta key.

Thanks Lee, very kind. Actually I'm female, of, err, mature years shall we say, approx 5' 2", so if you think I fit the bill as some big meat head overpowering the choke I'm not sure.... You have a PM anyway.

The rubbishy choke key Beretta supply for their extended chokes has given up and I cannot release the choke from my Urika 2 barrel...would like to buy a decent aftermarket choke wrench - have heard that the Briley Speed Wrench fits Beretta Extended chokes like the Optima and Optima Plus - can anyone confirm?? I don't see the point in buying umpteen original Beretta keys as they are really poor quality!!

Gunsmith and gun shop told me its plastic from the wadding - particularly hard to get off optima bore barrels like the AL391. Tetra makes a solvent which will dissolve anything, apparently designed to move plastic residues like this - a bit of this every so often and a wire bore brush or boresnake, and it moves the stuff quickly.

Just because a gun has been "fitted" doesn't mean all will be well even if the gun mount is reasonable.....I bought a Browning Ultra XS Prestige 30" Sporter with adjustable comb some time ago from Brierley Guns, fitted by James Hand. He took a fair time fitting and selecting a gun he then recommended, namely the Ultra, and I bought it. The stock was reworked to cast on as I'm left handed and a Kickeeze pad fitted. It still battered me, though, even using 21g shells and I added a Cheekeze pad before the recoil stopped hammering me. My results with it were very inconsistent on the clays. I've had lessons with a CPSA coach regularly. Then I found my beloved Beretta semi autos, and what a difference. Same person, same gun mount, different gun - little felt recoil, no battered cheek, and the clays break to bits a whole lot more than with the Ultra. So while a good coach and a professionally fitted gun of good quality should theoretically solve recoil battering you, it might not. Not all guns suit everyone, even if professionally fitted. :lol:

Well done, its a great gun - I wish you many happy hours shooting with it. Which model did you get? I have a Urika 2 Classic Trap along with my AL390 Lioness (stepped rib alrounder, but generally viewed as a sporter with its 28" barrel - brilliant on the DTL range though) and wouldn't swop them or sell them for any other gun - Great Choice!!!

You get what you pay for, although cheap glasses do offer some protection. I found the distortion of the visuals when using cheapies very disconcerting, plus they misted up really badly when using them - bought some Hidefspex via the opticians at Bisley (I need prescription inserts) and they are fantastic - clear, undistorted visuals, no steaming up, really easy to change lens etc. But they cost over £400 with the prescription lenses..... while the Top Guns were £50 (plus £70 for lenses).

I'm on contract down here for a few months and was wondering if there are any clay shooting grounds / clubs in the Norwich and North Norfolk area???

Lanny Bassham's Mental Management System for Shooting Sports and his book Winning in Mind are very good.......they are very promptly posted out from the US to buyers here, and arrive very quickly. Well worth it!!! They address concentration, competition, stress etc related to preparing and what you do while waiting to shoot so your thoughts don't drift onto what's happening tomorrow etc. Not cheap, but an investment in yourself.....

The wire attachments used in the US frequently are intended for single shot trap disciplines as they shoot there, not DTL- "having it adapted" means to me fundamentally changing the gun, which I would have thought would be via a gunsmith. The wire shellcatchers don't "eject the shells through the bottom", they catch the ejecting shell which is why they are not suitable for 2 cartridges, as they are intended to catch a single cartridge. Shucks bag attached to the receiver may work in some semis, (haven't tried it yet) but I think it may snag up on the Berettas. I certainly don't want to put others off their stride in any competition, but I am amazed at the level of intolerance I'm seeing here against semi auto users in trap disciplines. I would ask members of a squad if they'd find it a problem and would hope they'll actually be truthful about it, and try to shoot with people who don't find it a problem. Luckily not everyone does. However, concentration, if utilised at the highest levels, should not be affected by peripheral activity.

Didn't realise you were sooooo good looking Chard, has someone, Harnser perhaps, just grabbed your bum??

Rubbish. What a load of tosh!! Why should semi auto shooters have their guns "adapted" to suit you and a load of other pompous / precious gun snobs who think their Krieghoff / Perazzi / DT10s / Mk38 s are the be-all-and-end-all of trap shooting?? As pointed out previously, my shells certainly do NOT "fly at you" as they would have to bend around a most unusual and unnatural trajectory in a semi circle to "hit" the next shooter up!!! In a word, attitudes like yours and other poor ickle chappies who are "upset" by an empty cartridge, are intolerant, elitist, snobbish and just plain PATHETIC !!! Oh and do tell just how you propose semi autos should be "adapted" from side eject to bottom eject?? Some gunsmithing that would be Fact is, the rules as they stand allow semi-autos to be used in all the disciplines!! And for good reason!!

Very eloquently put, Harnser.... :look: :yes:

Semis that eject from the bottom are not exactly easy to come by, and may not be suitable or right for all semiauto shooters anyway.....no-one is prescribing what O/U you can use, are they? If the sport governing bodies thought semi-autos were such a menace for competition shooting then I'm sure they'd have banned them by now.

People can shoot one another accidentally at clay grounds but generally don't - the same way that most ejected cartridges CAN "hit" others, but equally generally don't. How are the ejected cartridges going to "hugely distract" someone from their perfect score when only one shooter is actually shooting at a time on the DTL range and the cartridges eject slightly forwards and to the side of the gun? Who are they going to hit in order to "hugely distract" them from a shot that they aren't actually taking at that time anyway? I agree with Harnser its a load of pompous rubbish that just smacks of O/U snobbery all the way. :look: Lots of other distractions at clay shoots other than semi autos daring to eject their cartridges and "upset" some plonker in the general vicinity who isn't taking a shot at the time........

Very pleased. Nice little gun for the grandson - easy transaction!!!