Killjoy

There were wasps similar in size to these dead on the beach in Zante. I found that out when I came along and stood on a dead one, well I think it was dead (it was after having 12.5st of me on it anyway). Turns out the sting penetrated my second to big toe, and didnt hurt that much, felt like standing on an awkward shell with a little *****, so I kept walking, it was on the second step when I felt it again, I lifted my foot up to see and there it was flapping away stuck to my foot, I flicked it off right away and hit it with the flip flops I was carrying. The pain slowly filled in within the next 30secs and it was unbelieveable, nothing cured it, it felt as if the inside of my whole foot was on fire. Luckily for me, a girl who worked at the beach bar had seen me dancing on the spot and rolling around infront of the packed beach and came running over with some cream for this type of sting, how greatful was I? it was instand reliefe. My toe was swollen for a few but all was well.... In the confusion, i cant remember weather it was dead before i stood on it, or if i killed it when hitting it with my flip fop, it all happened so quick.

With respect.... I dont think your quite getting it! QUOTE "shot at a head in the grass that i thought was a rabbit" wheather it was a rabit or a hare, who cares? not as if he said he shot at just a head did he?

Brace yourself for getting jumped on!!!!!

So let me get this straight.... If you get his by one of these things, you're going to get fried, but if you grab it and try to remove it, you're going to get even more fried!! hahaha... Who the hell is going to volunteer for testing?

Cracking shot.... Well done lad!! Dont let the "morrally correct" keyboard hero's get you down, nobody's perfect, except the keyboard hero's who have never done anything questionable And how the hell can something be over killed? Surely its better to be deader than dead than not dead and wounded?? If its dead.... its bloody dead end of! "Over kill" what Bull ****

Its from when I was in Namm....

Dont we live in a Democracy?? So are you saying that If gun licensing in this country was more relaxed, there would be less gun crime??

Absolute Rubbish!!!

Correct me if im wrong, but aint you one of the persons who thinks the laws concerning guns should be more laxed??

Thanks Harnser, thats interesting... So if drop leg holster was worn, a person could legally carry around a pistol in the state of new york? This will never happen in this country, just try to imagine the cost of implimenting such systems....

So you're saying that, as long as the person has a FAC they can buy anything they like, and the government wouldnt need to know who has what gun on what license?

I dont know if you're joking or not, its hard to tell...

I personally think that the need to "jump through the hoops" etc is all part of the process that is necessary. I agree, why shouldnt a FAC holder with a .243 be granted a .308? but then again, if we could just go out and buy anything, i dont see how they could control it, accuratly.

Would take pigeon shooting to a new "less than lethal level"!

No mate deffinatly, he asked why the need for the 223, and i replied foxes. He then said that any .22 centre fire was acceptable in north wales area for shooting fox. But as the land im applying for has been cleared for anything up to a .308 and the nature of the land he said maybe a 22-250 would be a better round that the .22 hornet. Maybe i have my wires crossed somewhere but im 99.9% positive that was what he said. We shall see.. Anyway the chap sounded like a jolly nice bloke!! anyone had any experience with him? North Wales (Anglesey) FEO / FLO?? cant remember which it is but you know what i mean lol...

Well done, I have my interview tomorrow. Applied for a .22lr, .17HMR & .223.... Copper called last week to arange the meeting and we had a little chat, even though I have had experience with rifles, he said he wont be able to grant a .223 straight off and said he would change it to a 22-250

Could you imagine the cost of training the police in the use of firearms? That would amount to millions of pounds worth of taxpayer’s money. Should crossbows be licensed? Debatable, maybe enforce something like the air rifle situation, that if any bow over a certain lb pressure would need to be licensed?? Therefore one could buy one openly if over a certain age so long as it was under a predefined pressure??

Following my read and interpretation of the thread in the off topic section titled “furious at work” – which managed to get “derailed” rabbiting on another totally unrelated subject, it was suggested that a new thread be created to discuss the matter further. So I thought id seize the opportunity and create the tread starting with my own opinion on the matter. The previous thread became hijacked when someone stated that the rules and regulations on gun ownership in the UK should be dropped, effectively granting any idiot the god given right to purchase a firearm with potentially disastrous consequences. And that it may be an idea to adopt a similar licensing system as which is currently enforced in some U.S states. When on holiday in Florida last year, we ventured off into a BASS Hunting store, to which I was immediately drawn to the gun section. On display were a wide variety of guns, from air rifles, shotguns, pistols to automatic rifles and just about every conceivable thing in-between; it was Aladdin’s cave to the gun enthusiast. I approached the pistol counter and asked the store attendant what a person would need to do to buy a gun, his reply was simple “Provide ID that the buyer was over the age of 18, and prove they were a U.S citizen, and pay” simples. Now I don’t know about you, but if it were that simple to buy a 9mm or a .45 ACP in the UK, id have one right away, in a nice little shoulder holster and would carry it everywhere I would go, be it alone or with the family, even more so if I were with the family. I love shooting, its arguably my favourite past time, and when the opportunity arises, its difficult to say no, sort of an addiction, so one would think that I would no doubt think it would be fantastic if such laws were adopted. WRONG!! I personally think it would be one of the biggest mistakes this country could do to adopt the U.S rules concerning gun control (apart from electing Gordon Brown as MP). Could you imagine going about your daily business driving along the road, not knowing if the chaves who are congregated on the street corner are armed and dangerous or not? This is the reason I would arm myself immediately, because if they have guns, well ****** me, I want one too. As a shooter myself, I like the option of choosing when I open the safe and take my guns out, what I don’t want, is to have to do it out of necessity for personal protection, and I personally think that legalising concealed weapons would create this situation, I don’t want to carry a gun as openly as I carry my mobile phone, purely as a measure for self protection. Some might say that, how do you know that the chaves don’t already have concealed guns on them? And fair comment, I don’t, but that doesn’t mean to say that I agree with the idea of them being made freely available to them does it? Which is all that will happen if the U.S laws are adopted. So to conclude my opinion: I personally think to agree with the idea that U.S laws be adopted in the UK with regards to the issuing and licensing of guns / concealed weapons, is totally a selfish, childish and un-calculated view on a matter to which the opinionated clearly has had no thought or understanding. Rant over!! And I know this is a likely to be a touchy subject so expect to receive a lot of flack from some people, so please just bear in mind that this is my personal opinion and not necessarily the one of others. Thanks

Clarkson's books are brilliant! And I really enjoyed that read too!!

Can TB be a fatal disease?

Thank you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Pigeon Ofcourse my mistake... appologies

With respect, there is such thing as the rock pigeon, as apparantly the rock pigeon and the rock dove are the same thing. Where have you seen that the rock dove is protected, could you link to it please.

To the guy who quoted all the people who have raced pigeons. (Im not going to quote as i could publish that) ;-) I could understand the love and effort some people may put into breeding and raising pigeons for racing, and dont frown upon them for doing it, and i think its extremely clever how they seem to find there way home, whereas i can get lost with a Tom Tom. Buy fundamentally, they are bread from ferals, which are derived from domestic pigeons, which are derived from the common rock pigeon. The rock pigeon is classed as a pest under the general license and can be controlled accordingly, as said, the only grounds that a person may be challenged legally if one was accidentally shot, was on criminal damage, but this would never stand up in a UK court of law.

It is an offence to knowingly shoot a racing pigeon, under UK law; this is due to the fact that the bird is a person’s property. Therefore one may be prosecuted for criminal damage but nothing else. With regards to the "knowingly" you would have to prove negligence without prejudice to prosecute effectively, not going to be easy, and likely to be very expensive.