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MAKE SURE THE RESEVIOR IS EMPTY!!!!! DRY FIRE UNTIL EMPTY!!! ROB :yp: Yes indeed.... Never attempt to open or fiddle with a CHARGED rifle or air tank... BANG!!!! Now shocked and blinded victim of traumatic amputation staggers away from his work bench with blood pouring from stumps of fingers and half empty eye sockets - well empty except for the strings of bloody nerve tissue dangling out onto his cheek. My Axsor is pumped up to over one and a quarter tons per square inch. An important reminder Rob - and thanks for the other info too.

I'm filling my new Axsor with a Hill's pump. I think I may have spotted a flash of water spray at the muzzle when firing the gun the other day. Does that sound reasonable? Is there any way 'dry' firing the thing might empty it of water? Maybe if I held it vertical so that water drained down to the firing valve and then let off a few 'dry' shots I might clear it out... What do you think chaps?

But the drop on a fac airgun there would be enormous!!! I got that energy figure from Chairgun. You've probably got it already, but it's quite useful if you're a 'Rainman' type like me...

She was well out of order, but had been driven to distraction by a bunch of scum. I heard recently that the ringleader had been sent to jail for persecuting other people. The problem is that in this country, we molly coddle the scum of the earth because they happen to be under eighteen, even though the afore mentioned dross are responsible for a crime wave. Meanwhile, victimised lady who flips under the pressure of constant harrassment, has the book thrown at her for a stupid gesture....

Thanks for pointing that out then Rob. The little **** needs arresting then and should be treated to the full majesty of the law. He should not be taken out by a swat team though - it just ain't necessary, except on the most bizzare of cases. Cheers

No worries Ive. I'm always getting the wrong end of the stick and shooting off advice / criticism / diatribes (LOL - I just typed DOatribes) only to realise I've dropped a clanger later. Cheers Hey but isn't it surprising how much energy that 30 foot pound pellet still has after 50 metres. Pity we didn't have less gravity here on earth, then all our guns would be flat shooters and we could take rabbits at 200 yards knocking them ten feet into the air! Of course, we'd also be knocked off our feet by the recoil.... I wonder what the air gun rules are on Mars?

With respect Rob, I'd be a bit careful about handing over the right to shoot down people the cops 'think' have a gun. They have a very bad record of shooting people with such things as table legs being taken for repair, harmless or beligerent drunks, and confused mental patients that have been turned out on the streets by our careing (careless?) society. You might also remember the disturbing case of an unfortunate Brazillian chap who having already been restrained by one copper while sitting on a seat and minding his own business, suddenly had his head turned into a sieve by another. Police have some very difficult matters to deal with and no mistake, but giving them carte blanche to treat some disordered adolescent with a 'gat' air pistol like he was a guy with an AK47, is not my idea of progress mate...

My Chinese B3 has only iron sights I try to fire a few off with that in the garden every day - I enjoy the nostalgia of it...

I should say so - at 50 yards, shot number one would still have 17 ft pounds of energy. I've noticed the same kind of capers with my new Webley Axsor. The first ten or so shots hit an inch lower at a forty yard target than subsequent ones. Mine seems to come to its best power at about 160 bar. I haven't run the pressure down below 125 bar yet, but its still at its optimum then.

Myxie is already weel in evidence in areas like Notts S. Yorks and Lincolnshire. I saw some discussion of it on airgunbbs.

get but i have to say its a very different movement, i know what nerves looks like, i mean ive shot a few as im sure you have. but you dont get this affect with anything other than airgun and rimmy, the centerfires get the nerves, but they dont get them leaping 5ft in the air in a quite noticeable controlled fassion (well as controlled as a dead thing can be ) its odd, i take what you say, but its not the answer to this strange behaviour (if it can be called that) centerfires never get anything but a lot of twitching, and i would think there is little difference between one hole through the head to the next. so can only put it down to the bullet/pellet being subsonic and the animal having nearly enough time to react. had one jus the other evening out of the 3 i shot which jumped like this, head shot @ 75 yards, and it did a massive jump and landed dead, bar the odd twitch. I think the leaping reaction may well be caused by the comparatively low velocity and hence low shock level imparted by the airgun pellet. There is I think a great difference between a .22 pellet travelling at 560 feet per second and a .223 bullet travelling at 2500 feet per second. One will travel almost through a rabbit's head at thirty yards and deliver about 8 foot pounds of shock to its brain. It will certainly die soon, but there may well be enough of the nervous system intact for the odd one to do a somersault before close down. In the cente fire case, there is a huge impact, hydraulic shock destroying ALL of the central nervous system and nothing but spinal cord induced twitching. Shoot the rabbit through the chest with anything of that order of power and you get a similar response. My old .22WMR would entirely destroy the contents of the thorax and they fell dead at once when chest shot. They fell down stone dead wherever you shot them with that. The fact is - a sub 12 foot pound airgun will kill rabbits when they are shot in the head, but it can't do the same job as a gun 10 times as powerful (.22 rimmy) or 25 times as powerful (.22WMR), hence you can expect a few acrobatics now and again, or to be honest, maybe one or two times in three. Of course, miss your intended target area by an inch, and the rabbit will fall down, and then jump up and run off. This would not ever happen if it was shot with a more adequate weapon, though I have seen it occur with .22 LR. On the other hand, maybe we shouldn't get too prissy about this. We are talking about vermin control here.

Here here! I thoroughly approve of every sentiment expressed here, even though I only quoted a couple of lines.

How many foot pounds was the handgun that was used to shoot a woman in the head at a christening party last week? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4193250.stm The fact that hoodie wearing yobbos carry REAL firearms with impunity about the streets - use them to rob and murder the rest of us, and that the incidence of such things is rising exponentially, demonstates the utter stupidity of hand-wringing about stupid airgun limits and whether joes airgun is .5 of a foot pound over the 'pea shooter' limit. I mean - get a life for Chr*st's sake. The scum of the earth are robbing, raping, molesting and mudering joe public and his wife and baby - often armed to the teeth with handguns of 500 to a thousand foot pounds of energy, and people here are anxiously wringing their hands about whether their pea shooter can propel some never used brand of pellet at an extra 10 feet per second (the difference between 11.9 and 12.2 foot pounds - a fast walking pace in other words). As if there were'nt real issues for the police to deal with.... Heard the one about the men in black who tied up a young mother with wire, kicked the **** out of her, dragged her into the same room as her 4 month old baby and set the place on fire? It happened not too far from here - I doubt checking the airguns of respectable citizens is terribly high on the agenda around here at the moment. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/4196944.stm Buy a legal airgun, don't mess with its insides and bl00dywell shoot the thing safely in a place where you have permission! That's what you got it for, and nobody cares as long as you don't do something ridiculous with it. Right - I'm off to get some rabbits.

Shadup a ya face! (My distant ancestors were Italian)

Absolutely none at all. :blink:

Hey Ivan, no need to apologise for anything to me mate. I just thought maybe we ought to keep remarks about wives out of it, but that's just my opinion. So easy to misinterpret a humorous jibe when you can't see the other guy's grinning as he types it. The really good thing about this forum in comparison to some others, is that the people here are good lads. Believe it or not, I'm banned from Airgunbbs because I crossed a bunch of tw*ts there who like to take the **** out of any ordinary bloke who turns up and makes a spelling mistake or asks a greenhorn question. Anyway I'm sure we all mean to keep this forum the friendly and welcoming place it is. Take no notice of my grumblings. People who know me think I'm a ranting old ***.

Right 1 of 5, I'll get my security arrangements sorted and make the application. Thanks for the information.

You ain't sha*ging BFC's wife by any chance are you Snakebite :*) :*) :*) :unsure: :< ....

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Took the new Axsor out yesterday and shot a bunch of rabbits - thirteen all told, there's a few of 'em below, photographed while I was having a cup of tea at the half way point. The gun is pinpoint accurate, and a delight to shoot at longer ranges, since it doesn't move a bit, unlike the springer I've been using up till now. People said that a PCP would be a revelation to a spring shooter - it's true. And here's a view of the shoot. The house is at 1155 feet above sea level.

Can anyone explain the process once you have got a FAC of making changes to a sub 12ft pound rifle you already own? I used to have an open FAC years ago, but owing to pressure of work, I sold up and let it go. Now I have more time, I'm thinking of getting another FAC and upping the power on one of my guns. I was just wondering if having got the FAC slot, you can just tell the Firearms DEpt you want to raise the power on an already owned one, register the number etc and do the work.

I've seen him do it. This ain't a blag.

What's wrong with a stirrup pump then? No need to pay £600 a year for that pass to the local gym, either, beats those rowing machines hands down.

No problem Roblade - it was my fault for not making clear what I needed. I got it this morning and once I'd twigged that I had to tighten up the union quite hard, it stopped hissing out when I worked the pump, and made than nice healthy squeak as the air goes into the chamber. That one runs at about a ton and a quarter pressure per square inch, so I hope the bugg*r never explodes in my face!! Cheers...

I don't know how to do as you ask, but it is normal for a rifle to show different energy levels with different pellets. Try some others and see what effect it has. By the way, I doubt the rabbits would know the difference between 10.4 ft pounds and 11.6, or 13, come to that, but the cops sure would if you accidentally over adjusted it and got pulled. As I understand it, if they have reason to test a rifle, they run a variety of pellets through it to see if it can be coaxed above the legal limit. I expect they'd need a good reason to want to throw the book at you for something before going to this trouble, such as inappropriate behaviour with it, but it's a situation best avoided. Leave well alone maybe... Mind how you go.... Cheers.