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The hardest thing you have to deal with in air rifle hunting is the very curvy trajectory. Unless you are very skilled this may cause all kinds of misses and woundings, both of which are really VERY undesireable, especially the last one. My advice would be to use a nice light pellet like an accupel and get a flatter flight to your taget. That way you have a good chance of mashing its brain whatever the power. A flat flying pellet delivering 9ft pounds that hits a rabbit between the eye and the ear will drop it like a stone. A heavy rainbow arcing magnum pellet delivering 12 ft pounds to the rabbit's lower jaw or shoulder, will cause it to die a miserable death. The flatter the better in my view, and I say that as a result of a lot of shooting. PS I shot 60 rabbits in three sessions during the last five days, and I'd go for ANYTHING that gave me a flat trajectory and accurate performance. Since I discovered them, I use nothing but accupels in my air rifles.

Of course you could always save some money and buy my TX200. It kills rabbits out to 40 yards no bother. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...t=0#entry202849 Please excuse my insolent interruption, but if ya don't try, ya don't get, do ya? LOL.

Northumbria deat with my application in nine days from my posting off the application to my receiving my new FAC. I did have one before in the eighties and I was renwewing my shotgun cert at this time, but I'd say they deserve a pat on the back for their service. They always were excellent to deal with, but they dealt with this really fast.

Sorry, it is just the gun at that price, and you pay the postage. This is a daft price for this gun. Last summer I paid £250 for it, a silencer and the scope. I have the scope and silencer employed elsewhere now, but I'll throw in the male to male adaptor that screws into the barrel and whatever silencer the new owner wants to put on. I regularly used it without a silencer as you can see from the photos. The rabbits never noticed. They didn't notice that it wasn't a .177 either.

In answer to the original question, since with a FAC airgun your velocity can be anything that is feasible, I'd go for a heavier calibre rather than lighter one. With standard 12 ft pound rifles, I think the flatter trajectory would make a .177 easier to use in the field where it would make judging distance a bit less critical. I have a fac air slot on my ticket too, but I'm wondering whether I should bother now. I only hunt with my rifles so the CZ seems much preferrable.

If you have a FAC, why stick with 'air'? I just bought a CZ425 standard and stuck an old silencer on it. It is quieter with 1085fps 120 ft pound Eley hollow point Subs than any of my airguns (strange but true) but makes a very mighty 'SMACK' when it hits the bunny. They don't even twitch. I took out four in a group one after another last night at 55 yards and they didn't spook at all. As for the result - small entry hole one side, empty head cavity the size of a 20p piece the other. Very humane and effectively point and shoot between 20 and 60 yards. What's more the gun onl cost £230. Have you checked the Eley doing 120ftlb on a cronno i use Eley myself and through my cronno they only do 90ftlbs and the speed is 1000fps that was the average of 5 shots. No, I don't have one. Is the chrono accurate? I'd have thought that the manufacturer's data would have to be accurate, but I can't dispute your figures. Whatever its actual energy and velocity, it surely does turn those rabbit heads inside out though. Maybe I'll try some empiracle drop tests to work out the velocity the poor man's way. I can measure the drop from say forty to seventy yards and check on the POI curve of chairgun to see what the velocity is. That itself begs questions like whether Chairgun itself is accurate though. The method did work with a known power 11.7ft pound air rifle though.

I'm glad I went out last night and had a few shots. It's pouring up here in Newcastle and it feels like November outside. I've got the heating on here, and meanwhile all those rabbits are waiting for me up in the hills.

If you have a FAC, why stick with 'air'? I just bought a CZ425 standard and stuck an old silencer on it. It is quieter with 1085fps 120 ft pound Eley hollow point Subs than any of my airguns (strange but true) but makes a very mighty 'SMACK' when it hits the bunny. They don't even twitch. I took out four in a group one after another last night at 55 yards and they didn't spook at all. As for the result - small entry hole one side, empty head cavity the size of a 20p piece the other. Very humane and effectively point and shoot between 20 and 60 yards. What's more the gun onl cost £230.

Ok - no interest at £160 - how about £115 without the sound moderator. It's so quiet, it hardly needs one anyway. This is a much better bet than some new 'rubbish springer'. It will outlast your Cometas and a load of other guns at that price, it will shoot straighter and with less variation in point of impact. Now I have a rimfire .22, I just don't need it anymore. This is usually regarded as the best springer you can buy. Some may think that a debateable point, but I've seen that view expressed many times.

#Possessing a firearm in a public place without lawful authority #Possessing a loaded firearm in a public place #Discharging a firearm in a public place #Discharging a firearm within fifty feet of a highway (if it caused alarm, danger or inconvenience to the public). The above apply to the public area of the street, after that, the CPS might wish to apply their mind to the pellet's journey over and into other people's property. PS. I was surprised to discover that Rabid Bunny was born in 1957. People usually become wiser with advancing age, at least up to the point when they begin dribbling at both ends.

Yeah I know about wind. I have some shooting up at 1100 feet in the North Pennines and it often blows hard up there. I've seen 5 inches of drift on occasions. If its too windy I just sit directly downwind of some of my favourite warrens and wait for them to come out. Next to no problem then whatever the wind. I just plugged 17 with instant knockdowns this afternoon by doing exactly that and the wind is at least 20 mph and gusty.

Sorry. I was searching the internet for info on Webley Axsors and turned up a post of Roosters about my own gun that I bought from him. I should maybe have left well alone....

That's always my preferred stance. I bought that rifle off Rooster last year and I just shot these groups with it as he describes, lying down against a fence post with the rifle braced on my knee. The reason it kills so well is that you can put the shot in exactly the right place if it isn't windy. Sorry to ressurect this thread after so long, but the target shows what a good gun the old axsor is. That's a pound coin added for scale between the two targets by the way.

Where did you sell the old Logun? I've advertised my old TX200 here to no effect so far. Glad you like the hw100.

SOLD (22/8/06) For sale, used Air Arms TX200 Hunter carbine in .22 caliber. with sound moderator No scope Oiled stock. ?160. I am selling this very accurate rabbit killer because I have my FAC now and am going back to rimfire rifles. This gun is in good used condition, and is mechanically perfect but with some fade on the blueing and a very minor scratch on the cocking lever. It is a VERY functional pest control gun for an air gunner who can shoot a springer. It was chronographed by my gunsmith last year at 11.7 ft pounds and is a very consistent and quiet rifle. I shot around 180 rabbits with this rifle last summer alone. PM me if you want more info and pictures. You can click this link to see a slideshow of views of this gun from different positions: http://img73.imageshack.us/slideshow/playe...4953719t45.smil Picturs in the field without its silencer:

I was just thinking I should take a deek inside my Hillspump since it's done a bit of work this year. It would be a real pain if it stopped working when I need it.

That's a useful link PO3. I've saved that DEFRA PDA WLF18 in my favourites. When I started out ya just shot a crow a pigeon or a rook, whenever ya saw one close enough. Didn't seem to do them much harm since there are still millions of 'em about, but what do I know. Not being a leftwing, strident, anti-fieldsports tw*t, I don't suppose I should have any input into discussions of species welfare or the countryside really, should I?

If you're at all interested, I'm about to sell my TX200. It isn't new, but is a very fine gun at 11.6ft pounds or as near the legal limit as you'd want to be. I shot about 180 plus rabbits with this gun last summer and very few ever got up to argue about it. It is deadly accurate and surprisingly quiet - much quieter than the Webley Axsor I bought for more money, but that is a multishot bolt action and doesn't need the cocking a springer does. Horses for courses I suppose. I'm going back to rimfire after a twenty year gap, because I have so much shooting that I want a flat shooting, deadly tool to do the job at longer range. At 35 yards to a max of 40, and this springer will put every one in the bag. PM me if you want more info and pictures.

Sorry to suggest the obvious, but you have adjusted the rear site sideways, haven't you? If you've run out of adjustment, that's another matter. Also, as I recall, if you want the sighted point of impact to move to the left, you need to move the rear sight to the right. You probably know all this, in which case ignore it.

I'll be selling my used TX200 soon when my FAC comes through. I shot about 180 rabbits with it last year. If he's interested he can PM me - so can anyone else for that matter. It's used, has faded blue on the lever but is mechanically impeccable, is quiet and best of all deadly accurate if you can shoot a spinger. I'm not sure what they go for, but I paid £250 for this outfit a year ago. I'd be thinking about £200. It has a Simons dearfield scope on it 3-9

The biggest problem I think any airgunner faces in field shooting is the curvy trajectory. This is enough of a problem with .22. The gun may put pellet upon pellet at the target range, but when a surprise rabbit presents itself along a hedge, in a wood, or in the corner of a field, the key issue isn't hitting hard, it's calculating the hold over/under, so you are certain you'll hit in the skull, and not its ear, or worse still its lower jaw. Hitting hard enough isn't the problem, it is hitting it hard in the exact right place that is, and the curvier the trajectory, the harder the problem. I'm going for a .22 FAC airgun at about 25ft pounds with 14 grain pellets and a .22 rimfire to get away from gunnery calculations that wouldn't be out of place for the average mortar. I toyed with the idea of .17vmax and .17HMR, but decided that with the number of rabbits I need to cull, the ballistic crack might reduce my opportunities for follow up shots. My advice to Tim_d would be to go for a .22 or even a .177. A rabbit with a hole in its brain never gets up again. That's a fact. I shot nine in a row that just fell over and twitched yesterday. That's because I knew the ground and the exact distance from my prone firing position to the warren they were playing outside.

AAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH Don't do it. The cheap e-bay ones are dog dirt. In a nut shell if you zero the laser in with grub screws you will be disapointed. If you use turrets you will be better off. (however saying that the laser on the bottom of AXE's s16 seem to do quite well and that is grub screws, I dunno maybe I am talking out my ars3! I bought a really cheap chinese 'laser' last year and it wasn't a laser at all. It was a bright led with a crappy lense and it wouldn't light up a target at twenty yards in daylight. KEEP away from too good to be true offers. They really are too good to be true.

Yes - I know what you mean. My feeling is, I freeze them within three hours of shooting them, process them when convenient and either use immediately or freeze them as burgers for use as required. Basically, they've been frozen until they're used.

Re insects and such - I've shot a load of rabbits this summer and at times they had flies all over them as I left them in heaps until I'd finished the session when I'd gut and bag them. Problem was, some of my recipients complained that by the time they got to skinning them a day and a bit later, they were crawling with maggots. After that, I dropped them in a big freezer overnight in the black binbag and then thawed them out and gave them away. No more maggots. I guess the eggs don't do well after a spell at minus 20 centigrade. I must have about thirty odd rabbits in their skins in the freezer now. I don't know if anyone can come up with a reason not to do this, but it does seem to knack the parasites - fleas as well.

I bought one of those ebay cheepo things for £0.99 with about £6.oo post and packing. Although it looks reasonable on first looking at it, I don't think it is even a laser. It has a terribly fat spot and a poor range. A cheapo LASER pointer i used to have could be seen at 300 yards on a dull day. This thing hardly goes down the garden at dusk. I dismantled it and I believe it to be an ultra bright LED and not a laser. It depends completely on a crappy plastic lense to ring the spot down to 1/2 inch at ten yards. That is not laser type performance which would produce that kind of spot at hundreds of yards. Total waste of money even at the price I paid for it. The tragedy is, the metalwork on the thing is quite nice - for a few more coppers, it could have been a half way decent thing. Cynical Chinese counterfieting rubbish. AVOID http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...bayphotohosting