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Progress to my mind is the move towards a society where you aren't defined my where you are born or what you look like. A society where politicians are no longer able to gain political capital by targeting groups of people because they look different or speak a different language. A society where a woman isn't considered to be inferior and told by men that she can't make her own choices. Outdated and irrelevant is a description of those who believe they are somehow special because they were born white, British\American and often male. Such people also tend to think their views are unquestionably right without providing any intellectual or moral justification for them. They also generally think they have an authoritarian right to force their own world order on others. The intolerance we are seeing is impinging on other citizens' freedom and that is why we need to shut it down.

If you are tolerant of those who are intolerant, you create a paradox as the intolerant would abuse the tolerence they are being shown. To prevent this, it is necessary to be intolerant of the intolerant.

It is interesting you categorise me as "left". I certainly don't consider myself to be economically left. What I am is an anti-authoritarian who believes in the rule of law and the core values of liberty. I also don't understand why you see 'liberal' as a dirty word. All I can think is you are using the same misapplication of the word as the majority of the right wing press. Like the stupid term 'snowflake' it has become a stick to beat people who disagree with the dross that Farage, Trump etc are spewing because those using the term lack the eloquence to win the intellectual argument. And believe me, if you met me you wouldn't think I was smug; just lacking in tolerence for those who suddenly think they have a free pass to air their abhorrent views as a result of the events of the last twelve months.

Ah yes, so familiarising yourself with the writings of one of the greatest philosophers of the 20th Century would be a waste of your time? I think I'm beginning to understand you...

As it was mentioned further up the thread, we should be clear that the suspect charged with the Quebec shootings is a white man with right with sympathies: http://news.sky.com/story/quebec-mosque-suspect-charged-as-victims-named-10749579 The second man arrested is now being treated as a witness, not a suspect.

Read Karl Popper on the Paradox of Tolerence. There is absolutely no need for us to tolerate the intolerance of Trump and his gang of cronies.

I think we are in fact seeing the polar opposite. Brexit, Trump etc is the last stand of those who have become outdated and irrelevant and can't bear the sight of progress. The boorishness, use of stupid put downs like "snowflake" etc. are the tactics of people who no longer have anything to add so have had to resort to creating anger and division to feel relevant. History will judge those who let these people get away with it. They are no different to those who start smashing a few chairs after being told to leave the pub by the landlord.

Well this is awkward...

Some here would have you believe that these are the actions of a rational man

Worth a read: http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sorry-mr-president-the-obama-administration-did-nothing-similar-to-your-immigration-ban/

I missed two on Saturday...

If you walk around London you can quite easily end up on national television 'without permission'. Is it really such a problem?

£8/brace is a bit mean from the keeper given he'd get 50p from the dealer. I often ask for extra game after a shoot and have always been given it. Had seven brace one time and no one batted an eyelid.

Did I read that they are now recycling scrap using arc furnaces as opposed to blasting new stuff from coke and ore?