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How have you established the LOP dimension requirement? I seem to remember reading that when mounted to the face, there should be 2-3finger withs distance between nose and grip thumb. If that is the distance you want to adjust then by changing the stock length with 1" the thumb distanche will change by 4" Aparently there is a 1/4ratio between the 2 dimensions. That is what I read... @Welshwarrior: you do gunfitting as I understand. Is the above correct?

not as much as I would like. Young kids and wife deserve better tham my selfish Self. As Spaniel said above, shoot alot in my daydreaming.

Wellcome mate. Plenty of helpful people on this forum..

Hi, based on my airgunning experience, scope height is dependent on few things: trajectory, cheek height, objective diam 1- find the ammo that suits your gun and get it's Ballistic parameters 2- decide what is your hunting range (most likely) and your kill zone diameter 3- based on the above, work out a scope height &zero that gives you the flattest trajectory for your range. I used Chairgun free software but other ballistic software may work as well. 4- now you can see if you have the correct scope for your gun. It sounds like bulls** and I am sure someone will come along and correct me but it worked for me. For a rimfire the trajectory is very flat so it would require low mount but it depends on the range you shoot at. The closer the range the lower it needs to be.You can get a smaller objective scope if you do not need it at night and depends on budget. Hope It helps...at least theoretically. TSG

Mungler, that would be perfect if only I had a permission. I beling to the group of less fortunate ones. No dig at others.. so please take no offence. Clay ground seems my only option unless some goodwilling member who has accesd to land takes pitty on.me and lets me tag along... thank you for your suggestion. TSG excuse bad spelling。 typing on mobile always allows for odd ones sneaking in.

cheers. I'll look it up

@deershooter! It makes sense! winchester 101 could be overbored. I know they are backbored according to Manufacturer, but that is diferent thing. I tried the gauge out of curiosity as I said. I was under the wrong impression that the choke diameter is a constant, not the restriction. This obviously makes the choke diameter relative to the barrel. @bostonmick. I wouldn't get hung up on chokes selection but I deffinetly feel the need to pattern the gun... That is onother thread. At the moment I have fitted IC and MOD chokes for clay practice. Thank you all for your help, TSG

Hi, does anybody know of a clay ground with a pattern plate available to shooters? I am trying to gauge my gun fit/mount and dominance as well as gun chokes patterning. I live in Dagenham so essex/kent(ish) would suit for travel. Any info would be much appreciated. Sorin

Hi guys, Been a long time since I posted on forum... I am trying to get into clay/game shooting and at the moment I am building up on theoretical side. I have an Winchester 101 xtr older model and it has several chokes. I bought a choke gauge out f curiosity and found that apart from cylinder, no other chokes seem to match the gauge, all being larger diameter varying in 1-2 size larger. I thought the sizing was standard so either got duff gauge or my WinChokes (apparently browning invector would fit my gun) are over bored. Any ideas?

I zero at 24-26yards. haven't shot recently due to work commitments but it is great fun meeting like minded people and sharing few jokes ... Shoot whatever calibre you like. there are .22 and .177 as well as springers. if you haven't got a rifle then go for .177 A suitable scope would set you back 100-200quid. Falcon menace MP, Hawke sidewinder/panorama 1/2dot reticle type are the ones I use. practice is most important specially range finding. Hope it helps

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160602588880&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2261wt_1140 got this one and I am impressed with it.

Picture emailed. Let me know. transfer is ok.

£35 posted. they retail £55

Daystate carbon silencer 1/2"unf. as new.

This is a great offer. The price is more than fair. As i have nowhere to shoot this would be a great offer.

Interested as well. TSG

Impressive indeed. Came from Dubai last week myself. They have several worlds records. Unfortunately work kept me away from visiting most of them.

Hw97 and tx200 are great rifles. There is a tx200 sr version with a sliding action and almost no felt recoil if you are interested.

I have an ultra multishot. Originaly a .22 but I changed the barrel to .177(HW100 barrel). They are great but the shot count is about 30 (and you should get a regulator fitted to it for best results). IMHO HW100 is a good choice given quality, shot count and Magazine size. Also they are built so you can't double load pellets. As for the scope get an all rounder 40-42mm objective. You can't go wrong with Hawke Panorama 4-12x40 and get the lowest mounts possible (Nikko Stirling platinum mounts). http://www.deben.com/rifle-scopes/hawke-panorama.html Hope it helps.

Theoben are a good choice. Nowadays most mainline PCPs are good enough for the job and your budget is big enough. I would go for HW100 (others may disagree) as for the calibre either is as accurate. If the pellet penetrates or overpenetrates the brain it is sure death. It is a good practice to go for headshot and give your quarry a chance. If you want to go for body shots then you may go .22 route. I prefer .177 because you can always put a heavy weight pellet in and get close to .20 hitting power (if there is such thing). I don't want to open yet another .177 vs .22 debate here but I do a bit of Hunter Field Target and the calibre of choice is .177 and all shooting .22 will come (average) with lower scores because the range is not very easy to guess and .22 trajectory is quite loopy by comparison. Although at the moment you may use it only around the barn you never know what future permissions bring along, you may even pick up HFT ATB TSG

Once in a blue moon a stock shows up. bought one last week under £100 for my 101 to adjust to my dimensions.

I am a newbie myself and although I bought my first Shotgun 3 months ago I didn't have the chance to go out yet. I practised dry mounting and was very uncomfortable. Upon reading various articles about GUN FIT I came to the conclusion that my gun doesn't fit me. The point is that although you need to practice your mount until you get consistent THE GUN needs to FIT your dimensions. Otherwise you will develop some contorted mounting form in trying to adjust to the gun. I.E. my Winchester 101 XTR needs the following adjustments to fit me: -less pitch -LESS drop at the comb -more drop at heel LOP and cast are acceptable. I just bought a stock of fleebay (as spare) so I can modify the original to my requirements. Hope it helps, TSG

oh noooo, not the DUCKOFDOOMM... :blink: C'mon, bring them all: shepreth man, phoenix, snakes,snails,whatever you got. I haven't shot a HFT course since BSAOG meeting at Shepreth few months ago..