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It's not a proxy war, America the UK and others give Ukraine security garentees when they give up their nuclear weapons. Now is the time to honor those garentees

I get what you are saying, but world leaders were queuing up to appease and try and convince Putin not to invade Ukraine but he ignored them and did it anyway. If there had been a stronger response when Russia occupied Crimea in 2014 were might not be having this discussion.

So how do you respond then 🤔

You wouldn't have been saving innocent lives, just taking an innocent life. The whole shoot to kill was a nonsense, a simple dead man switch and shooting the individual would have set off a bomb.

Putin escalated by using North Korean troops, now it's pay back.

You said you avoided being shot by doing what you were told, my reading of that it's ok for the police to shoot if people don't do what they are told. As I said if that was the case the police would be shooting people here every day.

I was referring to the guy on the train not having a gun not the police that was encountered when out shooting. As for be believing he has a bomb, he didn't.

You had a gun, he did not 🤔

They shouldn't become victims but they have to be accountable for their actions just like you and me, if they have an issue with that then they are in the wrong job. So you think it's Ok for the police to use lethal force because someone doesn't follow their instructions, if that was the case here they would be shooting people every day 🤔

My reply was to comment about how dangerous an armed officers job was, my point it's much more dangerous to be an unarmed officer. Expecting police to be held accountable for their actions does not make someone anti police, it's common sense to me. As for the two female officers that were shot dead, my view is that all police officers should be armed so they would at least have a chance to protect themselves in a situation like that. They were obviously wrong they shot an innocent man 🤔

I don't know what I would do in that situation, but I would expect to be held accountable for my actions.

So you think it's Ok for the police to shoot someone for not following instructions 🤔

What if, rather than what if maybe what was. He was an innocent man shot dead by the police, so the officer would not be damned for not shooting an innocent man. A dangerous task, how many firearms officers have been killed, and how many unarmed officers have been killed 🤔

I doubt if he would be damned for not shooting an innocent man.

Probably in the small print I didn't read.