I've owned a Japenese 4x4 and there's nothing more boring, it's just another 4x4. The landrover is an iconic vehicle known the world over, thats it's appeal, it's a classic car. If we all went for reliability, fuel consumption, price etc. it would be a pretty sad, boring place. We'd all be driving the same car in the same clothes, shooting the same guns with the same dogs etc. I think the vast majority of us who buy a Landy know what to expect, so we really don't need smart ***** telling us they leak, rattle, uncomfortable etc. We already know that.