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Evening everyone, Reece Langford based in east and West Yorkshire, I have been decoying pigeons for three years now and been shooting game since 16. so with three years experience decoying I would say I am relatively new to the sport. i feel the need to reach out for help as I have endless amounts of oilseed rape year on year that needs decoying, I just don’t seem to have the luck or the numbers that I need. with the experience behind me I do put time into reconnaissance and study the flight lines as that is not the problem. the problem I fear is my decoying method and my inexperience of knowing about what to do in what situation. i have been out in a 70ac field of oilseed rape surrounded by trees today, I set my hide and decoys and my magnet up about 21yards away from the flight line into a wood , I put 12 decoys out with the magnet past the decoys so they had to cross the plastic decoys to get to the magnet which I was always lead to believe this was correct , the decoys were all head into wind in a V shape. the reason I didn’t set up directly on the flight line as I was afraid the shots would echo down the flight line and scare the pigeons away.? the pigeons particularly in this field have been in large groups of 100 plus going from 1 wood to another not really committed to feed, however most of this afternoon when feeding they have been landing away from my decoys and they haven’t even been interested in the decoys or magnet. this situation I am describing seems to be happening to me on a regular basis now and is getting a bit disheartening in the fact I may be doing something wrong and just want to do a good job for the land owners as they are destroying my crops. do I need more decoys, do I need to use the flapper and magnet or not at all? Do I need to do something different with my decoy pattern? Is my location wrong? any help from you experts out there would be really grateful as I love this sport and when it goes well it provides some really good practice and it keeps these crops safe and also provides me with game for my dealer. thanks everyone Reece.

What’s everyone’s thoughts on Nick Taits new invention ? Had my FF6 for a few years now and absolutely love it, incredible pulling power on the right day. Wonder how good the Big-G would be

Please excuse my ignorance, can anyone tell me the best way to set up my manual pigeon flapper? It's a Sportplast pigeon decoy with flapping wings (manual cord pull). I got it yesterday from Uttings and hope to use it on Monday. Also can anyone recommend some good but cheap decoys? Cheers everyone

Hi guys just wondering where do people locate their magnets and flappers in a horseshoe pattern. If using both together and using them separately. Cheers Rory.

I haven't been decoying for over three years and this is now sitting in a garage gathering dust. Most of this equipment came from Will at UK Shoot Warehouse. I want £100, no offers please, and you will have to collect from Herne Bay, Kent. 1 Very large tank net 1 Small scrim 1 Rotor with arms 1 Flapper and remote 40 Woodie shells Large bag Game bag 4 Poles 2 Floater poles Advantage timber jacket, hood & trousers medium No seat LB

Hi all, I wonder if I might ask for a little help with a few decoying issues which I'm having. I'm an experienced shooter but most of my pigeon shooting has always been roost shooting or flight lining and decoying is fairly new to me. I've been shooting pigeons on two fields, one of newly drilled game crop seeds and one of drilled barley. At first the old strip of game crop still ran along the middle of the field and made building a hide near the feeding area easy and I had some good shooting. This has now been ploughed up and the pigeons are still feeding on the seed but there is nowhere nearby to build a hide where it won't stick out like a sore thumb. Does this matter? I remember reading that Archie Coates said it wasn't good to have a hide in open ground but other people seem to say it doesn't matter? The second issue which I'm having is when shooting over the drilled barley. There are always lots of birds on the ground when I arrive, but once I've built my hide and set out the decoys the birds will not come back into the field. It's not that they're seeing the pattern and shying away as if there is something wrong with it, they are just flying over without showing the least sign of interest in the pattern whatsoever. There is conifer wood across the road behind the area where I have to set up and I get occasional shots as they make their way into that, but they will not come back into the field. I only have shell decoys at the moment, which I couple with some dead birds. Would a flapper or a rotary make a big difference in pulling the birds off of their flightpath or might I be doing something fundamentally wrong? Thanks very much for your patience with a beginner! Williegunn88

**Update** This has to be a complete score for a new shooter! I am selling my Beretta A400 Xplor Action (28" with Kick-Off) on GunWatch - http://www.gunwatch.co.uk/guns/10406-Beretta-A400-Xplor-Action-Kick-Off-for-sale The gun, Slip, 2 Slings, ammo belt, 500+ rounds of ammo, + all the kit listed below for £1500 (I must be nuts!) Plus - If this goes in one lump I will then offer a Brattonsound Sentinel (SL7+) 6-7 gun safe with lockable internal ammo compartment for an additional £150 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The 'lot' below can be sold separately to the gun deal listed above. This has everything you will need to get pigeon whooping. Everything is in great condition. The job lot - £350 Severely restricted capability for picture uploading, so ping me a message and I will email them over to you. 1 x Ameristep Brickhouse Blind (With Carry Bag) - (Easily big enough for 2 large lads). 1 x Ameristep HD APG Cammo Foldable Chair. 2 x 7ft x (bloody long) HD APG Cammo Nets for Hide Building. 1 x large square HD APG Cammo Net for Hide Top. 7 x Good Quality Hide Poles (don't ask what happened to pole no. 8) 1 x Large Green Kit Bag for Cammo Nets etc. + Pole Slots on Outside. 1 x Pigeon Magnet . 2 x Silo - Flappers for Magnet. 1 x Battery for Magnet. 12 x Silo-Sock Decoys 1 x Cammo Holdall for Magnet & Decoys

Hi there, i am looking at investing in some new equipment, specifically a magnet and flapper, but would you suggest that both were required and if so what sort of set up, is it easy to attach a flapper and can anyone recommend a website with any good deals. Many Thanks